The Girls Only Thread

[algunz]

Please no, we have enough stupid people in this world. We DON'T need any more.

[kitt kat]

Wait someone showed nudes? Huh?

Changing topic...I was supposed to start a new pack of birth control last night. Open up my medicine cabinet, take out the box and...everything's there but the pills. I wrangle up an emergency refill blah blah blah...

Question is: if I took the pill I was supposed to take last night (first one of the new pack after a week off) this morning at noon, am I OK?

[piedpiper]

Kitt Kat - yes, you are, just take the second one at a little later than you would normally take it tonight (IE take two today).

Depending on how you are on taking them, you might feel a little queezy, but this is normal.

Me personally can not take them - they make me sick - literally.

[chairmenmeow47]

you're probably ok, but i dunno if that's a risk i'd take lol.

[kitt kat]

yeah, i know. ughh. i'm kinda forgetful and i usually have to double up some days. no babies yet...i was freaking because the last time i was "at risk" (ahem) was yesterday morning and i didn't want any swimming things to swim their way into some trouble.

[algunz]

Just use a condom to be sure. It's not worth the risk. That being said, you're probably ok.

[Monklish]

I've got an idea--how about you just don't have semen shot into your vagina?

[chairmenmeow47]

yeah, you can get pregnant on birth control, so i personally still think it's a good idea to pull out as i've known people who've gotten knocked up on birth control. i just don't trust it lol. but you seem to be doing fine :thu

i need to get new coachella shoes this year. my volatile's finally gave out :( i like getting platform tennis shoes for dancing purposes and so i'm a bit taller than the grass and then the grass isn't making my leg all itchy. i also need to remember to pack warm, i was kinda cold last year.

[PC-2 Violence]

Where is the thread where you can see these photos???

[chairmenmeow47]

i think they said they weren't hers. so probably google image search lol

[algunz]

I put up a cooter punch and get an infraction and "she" post nudes and is still here. "Oh the humanity."

Ivy, do they still have those cool converse platforms out? Those would be great Coachella shoes. As long as you can break them in first.

[miscorrections]

She didn't post them, she sent them around chat.

[Courtney]

Kat, I agree with Al on this one. You're probably ok, but double up to be safe.

This is why the Nuvaring my choice. I don't trust myself to be taking a pill every day at the same time each day.

[Monklish]

Or you could just not get came in.

[algunz]

Despite popular male belief that's not a fool proof system either. Pre-come can be potent.

[miscorrections]

I'm overdue for a yearly so maybe I'll ask about Nuvaring. It sort of freaks me out, though.

[Monklish]

Despite popular male belief that's not a fool proof system either. Pre-come can be potent.

No, actually, it can't.

[BROKENDOLL]

I put up a cooter punch and get an infraction and "she" post nudes and is still here. "Oh the humanity."

Ivy, do they still have those cool converse platforms out? Those would be great Coachella shoes. As long as you can break them in first.
Isn't the word you're looking for, hipocrisy? <Hmm, that sure doesn't look right, does it? Anyway, Gunz, maybe your punch pic wasn't coot enough, I don't know...Or, maybe...maybe I should just stfu, huh?

[rskapcat]

The Nuvaring made me insane. That particular hormone elixir didn't work for me. I've been on the pill for years. I take it within the same 1/2 hour time period every night. If I forget the pill...condoms for 2 weeks.

[rskapcat]

Oh, and regarding not being on your period at Coachella...start your pills on Friday instead of Sunday. You will never have a period on the weekend again. :)

[chairmenmeow47]

The Nuvaring made me insane. That particular hormone elixir didn't work for me. I've been on the pill for years. I take it within the same 1/2 hour time period every night. If I forget the pill...condoms for 2 weeks.


nuvaring made my batshit crazy ex BFF even more crazy. and the worst was that she was convinced that it didn't affect your hormones, so she refused to stop until she went psycho on her boyfriend. i think she also had some pains during sex too.

[chiapet]

Girls, what are some of your coping strategies? I personally haven't had much bad luck although there was 2008 when it started right at the the end of Sunday. My biggest fear is having to place a tampon inside me in a portapotty. Ewwww...

I guess I'll be the one to answer seriously. If you're on hormonal birth control such as the pill or nuvaring, just skip the "off" week, and you shouldn't get a period at all. You might spot a bit.

If that is not a possibility that could be acted upon by Coachella, my next suggestion would be a Keeper/Diva cup/etc ie, devices that do not need to be changed repeatedly through the day. You'd have to bleed a LOT to have to change one more often than every 8+ hours.

If that's also not a possibility, wet wipes, hand sanitizer, and there are toilet trailers in the back of each port-a-potty section, the lines are long, but they're much cleaner, flush, and have sinks.

[Queenie Cupcakes]

Thank you, chiapet! There's some good suggestions in there.

Apparently I'm being evicted from this site, so consider this my farewell. See you in the desert everyone! Muah!!!

[chairmenmeow47]

http://ivy.aholic.us/gallery/d/582562-2/peace.gif

[casey]

my really good friend's girlfriend was on nuvaring, it made her insane. seriously, she was cool until she went on nuvaring, then a few months later she was depressed or angry all of the time and like ivy's friend, she would hurt during sex. it severely affected her relationship with my friend almost to the point of them breaking up. she's been off it for a year now and is completely back to her old self, but seeing how it affected her made me never want to go the nuvaring route...just in case.

[kitt kat]

scary...

but yeah, i don't think he and i have even BOUGHT condoms in over a year and a half and we've been going out for over two yrs.

[HunterGather]

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[Astrid]

WHAT??? those tits were fakes??? well shit....how sad. i was seriously impressed and everything....:nono

i actually hadnt heard any bad feedback about the nuvaring, and was considering switching to that, so good to know. something about it seriously irks me anyways.

i remember reading some bullshit in the CRAZIEST THINGS YOUVE SEEN AT COACHELLA thread last year or so. some dude talking mad trash about seeing a bloody tampon in a portapotty, he had the audacity to say some that if a girls on her period she shouldnt be going to coachella. i flipped a bitch. oh lordy lord.

[locachica73]

Depo (birth control shot) will in most cases make you not have a period for 3 months, sometimes you will spot during the 3 months but for me it ended my period completely. I wouldn't recommend going on it for a long period of time as it can give you some mood swings, lower your sex drive and make you gain weight but if your that worried you could go to your OBGYN and ask for it and be good through April.

[chairmenmeow47]

depo heightened my craziness exponentially. and it sucks because once you realize you're crazy, it's not like you can just stop taking the meds. you're on it for 3 fucking months. i had thoughts about driving my car as fast as possible into this wall by my house and freaked out for days over shit that would normally merely annoy me for a few minutes. my old roommate had a friend who lost her hair on depo. i had another friend get endometriosis (sp?). that shit just ain't right to me.

[rskapcat]

I haven't heard one good thing about depo. Not ONE. I hear stuff about significant weight gain (like 50 lbs), cystic acne, craziness...all bad stuff.

[chairmenmeow47]

yep, i gained a shitload of weight too; maybe like 30 or 40 pounds.

[locachica73]

I gained a lot of weight too but had been on it for 2 years. The first shot wasn't too bad, by the third I had to drink myself into wanting to sleep with my husband, after awhile that didn't even work. But I did like the no period thing, just wasn't worth the 60 lbs I packed on after all that time.

[herro kitty]

I got the Depo shot for 2007's Coachella. I went crazy, too.

I would like to say something about birth control. I was on it for about 2 years. I stopped taking it in August 08 because I got tired of how it made me crazy. I started losing my hair a month after, like, so considerably that the part in my hair was widened. I got so scared that I went back on regular birth control for a month and my hair grew back... but then I decided to stop completely. I don't want to rely on BC for the rest of my life to keep my hair, you know? If I can't bounce back now, I never will.

It's been about a year and a half since I was on BC and I'm still shedding massive amounts of hair. It's something about how your body is shocked after you get off BC because of the dramatic decrease in hormones and a way to cope with that is to reduce the secondary uses of those hormones (like, the follicle stimulating hormone keeps and grows your hair and is part of these hormones). Or something.

Sorry for the digression. I just hate birth control in general. What were we talking about?

[amyzzz]

Nuvaring actually made me sane -- maybe it cancelled out my normal insanity. I did get awful migraines on it though, and I eventually had to stop using it because of that. My doctor refused to prescribe it past my 35th birthday. And of course I had absolutely no sex drive, which sucked. It cleared up my face though.

[amyzzz]

I got the Depo shot for 2007's Coachella. I went crazy, too.

I would like to say something about birth control. I was on it for about 2 years. I stopped taking it in August 08 because I got tired of how it made me crazy. I started losing my hair a month after, like, so considerably that the part in my hair was widened. I got so scared that I went back on regular birth control for a month and my hair grew back... but then I decided to stop completely. I don't want to rely on BC for the rest of my life to keep my hair, you know? If I can't bounce back now, I never will.

It's been about a year and a half since I was on BC and I'm still shedding massive amounts of hair. It's something about how your body is shocked after you get off BC because of the dramatic decrease in hormones and a way to cope with that is to reduce the secondary uses of those hormones (like, the follicle stimulating hormone keeps and grows your hair and is part of these hormones). Or something.

Sorry for the digression. I just hate birth control in general. What were we talking about?
Barb, try using Nioxin shampoo/conditioner for the hair issues.

[chairmenmeow47]

barb, have you talked to your doctor about this? that's scary!!! i hate birth control too. i am way too emotional as it is and birth control just makes it worse.

[locachica73]

I can't be on birth control anymore because I am over 35 and I smoke. I wanted to get my tubes tied but can't because I am overweight and the doc worries about the risks of surgery. So each month it is a crap shoot, I look forward to the last week of the month to see if I want to eat every morsal of food that is put in front of me because that means my period is around the corner. It is a sucky way to get through each month though.

[herro kitty]

Amy, will I have to use that shampoo from now on to keep my hair? I heard that once you start using Rogaine, you have to use it forever or else your hair falls out. I just don't want to depend on any products... I'm using this sulfate free shampoo that makes less hair fall out than the regular Pantene brand that I used to use. I tried Dr. Bronner's Castile soap for a few days and I didn't have any hair fall out at all, so I'm looking into that.

Ivy, I don't have a doctor :( I just read stuff on the internet... Yeah, I'm terrified of birth control. It made me nauseous every day and I would cry for no reason. I lost 20 pounds though, for some reason. I was never able to get wet; I had to use lube. And then soon I stopped being horny in general. Fuck BC.

[amyzzz]

Barb, I don't really know. All I know is my dermatologist advised me to use it and says it helps keep the hair from falling out. I just used it for the first time today, and it didn't really help yet. Ulta carries it. I'm feeling a bit desperate -- I don't want to end up looking like my sister whose scalp shows through.

[herro kitty]

Let me know how that works. My scalp shows through whenever I tie my hair up. I started taking Biotin supplements 2 weeks ago, I read that it helps with hair, skin, and nails. Can't hurt to try.

[amyzzz]

I was taking iron supplements for 6 months (under the supervision of my doctor), and then they told me to stop taking it and eat an iron-rich diet. The problem is, I don't really eat a lot of iron-rich foods. My diet is kinda ridiculous. You could try seeing a dermatologist about it, and see what s/he says.

[motionnn77]

I can't be on birth control anymore because I am over 35 and I smoke. I wanted to get my tubes tied but can't because I am overweight and the doc worries about the risks of surgery. So each month it is a crap shoot, I look forward to the last week of the month to see if I want to eat every morsal of food that is put in front of me because that means my period is around the corner. It is a sucky way to get through each month though.

I haven't posted on this thread before, but I've been on a BC since last June and I'm just over 35. I've never been happier. It's Loestin 24 Fe. However, I don't smoke. But, I gained a couple lbs. at first, but now it's evened out and I'm actually having to work to keep weight on. The first month is a little rough (some nausea and break through bleeding) but now, I couldn't live without them.

I'm on them because I have a re-occuring cyst that likes to show up and make my cycles heavier than hell. The cyst was gone in less than a month after starting the BC's. My doc is afraid my fibroids will get bigger if I stay on them, but so far, they haven't grown.

If you can quit the smoking, ask your doc about them.

[locachica73]

I tried BC briefly before I started smoking again and they just made me feel like puking all the time. And with my ulcer puking is not an option for me because once I start I just can't stop, for days. So I just cross my fingers and hope for the best. I really don't want to have anymore kids though. I just need to lose another 30lbs or so and go back and see my OBGYN to make her change her mind.

[motionnn77]

I tried BC briefly before I started smoking again and they just made me feel like puking all the time. And with my ulcer puking is not an option for me because once I start I just can't stop, for days. So I just cross my fingers and hope for the best. I really don't want to have anymore kids though. I just need to lose another 30lbs or so and go back and see my OBGYN to make her change her mind.

Good luck w/ that. I'm an aerial artist btw, so I'm always working out in one way or another. One of the easiest ways to cut weight: walking. Jump roping is great too, but if you want to save your knees.....:walking.

Just my .02.

[guedita]

Ive been on nuvaring for 3 years now and have never had a significant problem with it. Now I'm starting to wonder if my moments of bitchiness are somehow related...

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever tried the "patch" method?

[obzen]

Girls...

WASHINGTON – Little girls may learn to fear math from the women who are their earliest teachers. Despite gains in recent years, women still trail men in some areas of math achievement, and the question of why has provoked controversy. Now, a study of first- and second-graders suggests what may be part of the answer: Female elementary school teachers who are concerned about their own math skills could be passing that along to the little girls they teach.

Young students tend to model themselves after adults of the same sex, and having a female teacher who is anxious about math may reinforce the stereotype that boys are better at math than girls, explained Sian L. Beilock, an associate professor in psychology at the University of Chicago.

Beilock and colleagues studied 52 boys and 65 girls in classes taught by 17 different teachers. Ninety percent of U.S. elementary school teachers are women, as were all of those in this study.

Student math ability was not related to teacher math anxiety at the start of the school year, the researchers report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

But by the end of the year, the more anxious teachers were about their own math skills, the more likely their female students — but not the boys — were to agree that "boys are good at math and girls are good at reading."

In addition, the girls who answered that way scored lower on math tests than either the classes' boys or the girls who had not developed a belief in the stereotype, the researchers found.

"It's actually surprising in a way, and not. People have had a hunch that teachers could impact the students in this way, but didn't know how it might do so in gender-specific fashion," Beilock said in a telephone interview.

Beilock, who studies how anxieties and stress can affect people's performance, noted that other research has indicated that elementary education majors at the college level have the highest levels of math anxiety of any college major.

"We wanted to see how that impacted their performance," she said.

After seeing the results, the researchers recommended that the math requirements for obtaining an elementary education teaching degree be rethought.

"If the next generation of teachers — especially elementary school teachers — is going to teach their students effectively, more care needs to be taken to develop both strong math skills and positive math attitudes in these educators," the researchers wrote.

Janet S. Hyde, a professor in the Department of Psychology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, called the study a "great paper, very clever research."

"It squares with an impression I've had for a long time," said Hyde, who was not part of the research team.

Hyde was lead author of a 2008 study showing women gaining on men in math skills but still lagging significantly in areas such as physics and engineering.

Girls who grow up believing females lack math skills wind up avoiding harder math classes, Hyde noted.

"It keeps girls and women out of a lot of careers, particularly high-prestige, lucrative careers in science and technology," she said.

Beilock did note that not all of the girls in classrooms with math-anxious teachers fell prey to the stereotype, but "teachers are one source," she said.

Teacher math anxiety was measured on a 25-question test about situations that made them anxious, such as reading a cash register receipt or studying for a math test. A separate test checked the math skills of the teachers, who worked in a large Midwestern urban school district.

Student math skills were tested in the first three months of the school year and again in the last two months of the year.

The research was funded by the National Science Foundation.

[amyzzz]

I'm really concerned about that issue with my own girls.

[TomAz]

My daughters are very good at math.

[miscorrections]

I'm good at math.

[Monklish]

I don't even understand that study. So their point is that girls who are bad at math when enrolled in classes with female math teachers who are also bad at math are more likely to think women are bad at math than boys?

[locachica73]

I use to be good at math, use to tutor people too, then I started working in accounting and learned how to use a 10-key calculator. Now I can barely add two numbers together without a pencil and 10 fingers.

[amyzzz]

I used to do well in math at school, but I didn't like it and now I'm completely out of practice and useless.

[chairmenmeow47]

I'm on them because I have a re-occuring cyst that likes to show up and make my cycles heavier than hell.


i have a cyst or something too that really makes my cycles painful. i've also found that exercising helps.

barb, next time you see a doctor, ask them about the hair just in case there are complications or something. that could be a sign of a bigger problem.

i hated math in school, yet i perform manual calculations every day in my job. who would have guessed? i realized once i got to college that i just hate math teachers. i'm fairly intelligent and if i take the time to do all the practice problems and get one-on-one help, i do quite well. i just don't learn math well in a group setting.

[kitt kat]

RE: Math

The fuck? Kids hate math because of the public school standardized testing systems. Same reasons they hate reading and writing. How could you like something you've been drilled on and told to do well in from the first day of KINDERGARTEN. Fuck state testing. So lame. It's why public school kids get science, history, art and music cur out of their curriculum. I'm starting to become more thankful I didn't get into TFA in the last hour; I would die having to teach kids from the state standards every fucking day. Where's the fun in that? How can you make kids excited about filling in math bubbles?

RE: Birth Control

Dude, my hair falls out a lot too. Could it be the BC? Amy, what does that shampoo actually do?

But I've really had ZERO problems with my bc. I got it in the first place because a cyst on my ovary burst, landing me in the ER overnight with an IV of morphine. When I started taking the pills, my skin cleared, I lost weight (nothing drastic, but I returned to my "normal" weight) and my periods got more regular. Can't complain about it.

And my boobs grew. Fuck yeah.

[amyzzz]

And yeah the boob factor. But what's the point in having bigger boobs if you don't feel like playing with them? Meh.

[Astrid]

i was taking the lowest hormone dose bc possible, and i had basically no problems. the first month it increased my appetite, which was good for me because at the time i had no appetite AT ALL, no weight gain, or lack of sex drive, or emotional shit, only problem was pretty awful migraines during the off week. but now that im off it ive gained a lot of weight, which is very uncommon for me. im considering taking it again, i just really dont like the idea of my body becoming dependent on hormone pills, especially since its been a few months since ive stopped taking them and my body is still not regulated.

anyone have any experience with an iud? ive heard a whole range of responses...but i dont really feel like there are too many other options. or at least Good options. FUCK BC.

[amyzzz]

I'm just glad I don't have to take that shit anymore.

[kitt kat]

Why not? Did you get the tubes tied?

[amyzzz]

No, my man did.

[kitt kat]

High five.

[locachica73]

I use to try to convince my ex to get his shit snipped but he refused. Any man who is willing to do that to save their girl from major surgery should get rewarded in some way. I think it is ridiculous that it is almost always left up to the woman when it is so much easier for a man to take care of.

Nick is still young though and thinks he might someday want kids, although he is kind of on the fence. I know I really don't want anymore kids considering I am a little over 2 years away from my youngest being 18, but I also think he would be a great dad. I just know that nothing really lasts forever and I never want to be a single mom again. So if he decides he wants kids, he will probably have to find someone else to have them with. I did inform him though that we could have the best of both worlds, eventually I am sure my kids will have kids and we can take them now and then and send them home when they get annoying. BONUS

In other news, I have a job interview at 4:15 today. Cross your fingers for me girls, I need to get out of here before they lock the doors. I only have 2 billings to do for the entire month. That is a bad sign.

[amyzzz]

Good luck, loca!

[TomAz]

I think it is ridiculous that it is almost always left up to the woman when it is so much easier for a man to take care of.

is it "almost always left to the woman" though?

[rskapcat]

If I'm not on the pill, I have a weeklong period every 3 weeks. Fuck that. I have no problem depending on a hormone pill if it keeps my cycle regular and keeps the spawn away.

[locachica73]

I bet if you took a poll of couples and asked who was responsible for birth control at least 8 times out of 10 it would be the woman. Men won't even wear condoms on a regular basis if they are in a "committed" relationship, much less get shit snipped.

[Astrid]

its not really an aversion to the pill as much as a fear that if i take it for years and years it will FUCK MY SHIT UP. thats why i end up on/off/on/off but thats fucking stupid. so i need to just pick a method and stick with it. im just not sure which one yet.

[TomAz]

I bet if you took a poll of couples and asked who was responsible for birth control at least 8 times out of 10 it would be the woman. Men won't even wear condoms on a regular basis if they are in a "committed" relationship, much less get shit snipped.


That's a different statement than "who gets the surgery, the man or the woman?" In my experience* it is almost always the man. The woman only if there is a medical reason for her to.

But before they're done having kids, yes, it's usually the woman, cuz pills don't suck as much as rubbers do.



* - I am willing to bet I know more married-people-done-having-kids than anyone else on the board. Peer group.

[miscorrections]

I took off for a few months, now I'm back on but I'm on my last pack. I guess staying on right now would be a pointless expense since I'm not exactly having any sex.

[Monklish]

You're all psychos. It's called pulling out.

[amyzzz]

You're all psychos. It's called pulling out.
Well that works until you get pregnant.

[Monklish]

Know when people get pregnant? When someone ejaculates inside of them.

[TomAz]

It has to be the right part of them.

[Monklish]

That's a very good point.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/health/21cond.html

[chairmenmeow47]

If I'm not on the pill, I have a weeklong period every 3 weeks.

i have a similar cycle. but it's not worth having a regular cycle for me if i'm so crazy no one would ever fuck me :p but like i said, i'm crazy to begin with so the slightest hormonal change sends me for a loop.

[locachica73]

You're all psychos. It's called pulling out.

Sometimes men are late too, I don't want to pay another 18 years of my life because some guy can't jump off in time.

[guedita]

I used the withdrawal method in high-school, and all of my friends were aghast and upset about it, but it totally worked. It's good that plan B is more accessible now, for the occasional inside finish.

[Monklish]

Sometimes men are late too, I don't want to pay another 18 years of my life because some guy can't jump off in time.

Insist they come in your mouths. Done and done. Or just stop fucking 14 year olds. If you can't ejaculate in specific locations, you're not a man. I can put it wherever the fuck you want--floor mat, change cup, ashtray, tv set, fishbowl.

[locachica73]

LOL I didn't even fuck 14 year old boys when I was 14. Gross.

Yes, I know, aim is good. It also helps when your not fucking assholes that could give a fuck less if they are populating the world.

[chiapet]

I used depo for about 10 years without major negative side effects. My periods completely stopped, but started again normally a month or so after I stopped using it (may have helped that I went from depo to the pill). I cannot attribute weight gain to it -- though I do have weird weight fluctuations when I'm on the pill, Depo never caused any of that. No damage to sex drive. It was a little disconcerting not to get a period, but just for the first couple of months until I got used to the idea that no period did not mean pregnancy.

With the pill, no matter what pills I've used (and I've tried 5 or 6), I've had an awful time. I don't think I'm effected emotionally much by them, but my general health seems to plummet. Feeling tired all the time, getting sick often, increasingly serious respiratory problems that -- while not "blamed" on the birth control, clear up within a few weeks of stopping the pill. I'm not sure whether I'll bother going back on it. Condoms are fine for now, and I will probably get "fixed" in a couple of years.

[chiapet]

I do suspect that the gender stereotyping does have the outcome expected of the stereotype, if the girl has sufficient influences that this is how she "should" be because that's how girls are supposed to be. I know some women who feel like being good at "masculine" activities (though how math ended up there, I'd never know) makes them oddballs or at least not very feminine. I suppose math is supposed to be in opposition to the emotional -- but not logistical -- mindset we all have? :P

Fortunately my parents raised me telling me that I was not "as good as" boys but far better than them, and while I may have been rather full of myself as a child, it's helped me tremendously in school and career.

Oh yea, I love math, I was a mathlete and got a perfect score on the ACT math (I only had like a 700 math on the SAT but I did take that exam while slightly drunk). If I'm bored and don't have a book handy, I do mental maths for entertainment.

[chairmenmeow47]

i love the term "mathlete" :)

[TomAz]

Oh yea, I love math, I was a mathlete and got a perfect score on the ACT math (I only had like a 700 math on the SAT but I did take that exam while slightly drunk). If I'm bored and don't have a book handy, I do mental maths for entertainment.

Then you must love my avatar.

also, high 5.

[miscorrections]

FRACTALS

[TomAz]

high 5 to you too

[chiapet]

I'm not sure I deserve a high 5, since my only outlet for math in my career is coming up with increasingly complex spreadsheets to bend others' will to my own. It usually works though. ;)

[chiapet]

i love the term "mathlete" :)

We totally wore the mathlete tshirts without shame. I will have to scan a picture, since it's also a mock-able snapshot of the late 90's with HUGE spiral permed hair, high waisted and high water jeans, and multi color high tops.

[chairmenmeow47]

We totally wore the mathlete tshirts without shame. I will have to scan a picture, since it's also a mock-able snapshot of the late 90's with HUGE spiral permed hair, high waisted and high water jeans, and multi color high tops.

i cannot wait to see this :thu

[J~$$$$]

I do suspect that the gender stereotyping does have the outcome expected of the stereotype, if the girl has sufficient influences that this is how she "should" be because that's how girls are supposed to be. I know some women who feel like being good at "masculine" activities (though how math ended up there, I'd never know) makes them oddballs or at least not very feminine. I suppose math is supposed to be in opposition to the emotional -- but not logistical -- mindset we all have? :P

Fortunately my parents raised me telling me that I was not "as good as" boys but far better than them, and while I may have been rather full of myself as a child, it's helped me tremendously in school and career.

Oh yea, I love math, I was a mathlete and got a perfect score on the ACT math (I only had like a 700 math on the SAT but I did take that exam while slightly drunk). If I'm bored and don't have a book handy, I do mental maths for entertainment.

You sound slightly jaded.

[chiapet]

I'm not really. I have nothing to be jaded about. :)

Ivy, coming right up as soon as I fix my computer. Unfortunately it's a black and white photo, so you don't get the full benefit of how I thought pink and red matched.

[SFChrissy]

WOW...I forgot what this time of season is like...there are so many threads and new people...miss you girls!!!

[locachica73]

Yeah, it's been pretty crazy, even for this place. I stick to about 5-10 threads because the rest scare me. Although some of them are just fun to read. I am thinking there was a full moon last night because the board went insane. It took me about 3 hours this morning just to read 2 threads.

[SFChrissy]

saw the new rule beer thread...did you see my message...cider in a can and guinness!!!

[locachica73]

I did, and responded... I am excited about this news. I couldn't find the cider in a can when I went to Total Wine but plan on checking Bevmo this weekend. :)

[SFChrissy]

ohh shoot...I'm gonna have to go search that one...I googled the cidar and they are big cans...I think snake bites are perfect for this coachella!!!

[locachica73]

Snakebites are perfect anytime the temp goes over 80 degrees. :)

[Pixiessp]

If I'm not on the pill, I have a weeklong period every 3 weeks. Fuck that. I have no problem depending on a hormone pill if it keeps my cycle regular and keeps the spawn away.

This was me. A weeklong period every 3 weeks for years until last year at Coachella. I had one very wicked cycle and then...poof!! All gone.

[locachica73]

week long periods? I freak out if mine go over 2 days.

[Pixiessp]

Yes, week long periods. Tried several kinds of birth control to quell the situation but they all made my period even weirder. Plus I got weirder when I was on them. Now I'm just dealing with the fact that it is over.

[miscorrections]

Mine are usually 4 days on birth control and 5-7 when I'm not.

[locachica73]

When I was younger mine use to be 3 days, but I dry heaved everything in my stomach for 2 entire days each month. Now they only last a day and a half, I hardly have cramps but I am a raving bitch for about a week before hand. Peoples voices annoy me. I usually lock myself in my room.

[miscorrections]

If you're puking everything in your stomach that's not exactly dry heaving. That sounds like quite productive heaving indeed.

[locachica73]

lol well i would either dry heave stomach acid or I would drink sprite just to have something to puke. Funny thing, sprite thrown up tastes like flat sprite. I use to dry heave so hard that I would get little red spots on my face and break blood vessels in my eyes. It was horrible. Especially since I was in high school at the time so whenever I missed two days of school and came back all splotchy all the kids teased me about "that time". Like high school isn't rough enough for a heavy girl with a lisp.

[motionnn77]

And yeah the boob factor. But what's the point in having bigger boobs if you don't feel like playing with them? Meh.

Somehow, since's the BC's aren't really making me gain much weight, I missed out on the boob benefit:mad:

[kitt kat]

Mine are still a week long on the pill, but I only get one every three months.

[motionnn77]

I have really no pms at all on these magic bc's. I get cramps , mild ones for like 2 days and my cycle lasts 2 to 3 days, and it's nothing compared to my 9 day fiascos I used to have.

I had to miss Bajofondo when they came to LA last fall because I couldn't move for more than a 1/2 hour without having to run to change a super-duper tampon.

Like, imagine me trying to learn the tango at Bajofondo in THAT situation. In short, I stayed home and cried a bit.

Now, I can do anything athletic at any time. I love me my loestin 24 fe!!

[metalfag]

this thread is silly just like all the girls silly crush on

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/bfm_gallery/2009/05/taylor_lautner_as_jacob_black_in_new_moon_kellan_l utz_signs_autographs_for_fans/gallery_main/gallery_main-taylorlautner-jakob-poster-050509.jpg

[miscorrections]

Thanks for that insightful and topical comment.

[BROKENDOLL]

This was me. A weeklong period every 3 weeks for years until last year at Coachella. I had one very wicked cycle and then...poof!! All gone.
God, I can't wait until the "poof, all gone part!" And, after reading the last page or two of BC complaints and worries, I'm actually feeling better about being older and more familiar with my hormone activity. (I'm hoping the last few wicked cycles mean the end of that buyllshit is near.)

I will say to Ivy and any others who may be dealing with cysts, keep check of them.A doctor many years ago told me if I wasn't in pain or they weren't making me sick, I had nothing to worry about. So, I didn't worry...that is, until an ultrasound showed the painless cyst to be attached to an ovary and fallopian tube that ended up having to be removed. After that and almost a year without a period, they put me on the pill just to restart the cycle due to my age and worries about osteoporosis. In any case, I'm only a cunt with bad cramps every other month thanks to only one ovary.

[miscorrections]

I had a cyst that disappeared on its own. Ultrasounds are THE WORST, though. I almost crashed my car into the freeway divider because I had to pee so bad.

[SFChrissy]

Nuva Ring FTW!!!

[TheWatcher]

This was me. A weeklong period every 3 weeks for years until last year at Coachella. I had one very wicked cycle and then...poof!! All gone.

Haha, I am waiting for the "poof all gone" part. Missed 2 months in a row, but then found my spine was misaligned. Got it straightened out and boom, it started back up.

I am kind of glad, because it was like having PMS for 3 months straight. If menopause is like that I don't know what I will do. :(

[amyzzz]

So this Nioxin shampoo/conditioner I got (for thinning hair) makes my hair feel oily and gross.

I didn't buy the 3rd part of it -- "scalp treatment" -- which is apparently an essential part of it ($30 though!). I'm not sure if I should try the scalp treatment or just forget about the whole thing. I don't want thicker hair if it means it is super-oily all the time. Ugh.

Also, can anyone recommend a neutral red lipstick?

[butt_)(_rash]

http://threadbombing.com/data/media/43/iswydt.gif
ill just sit here, try not to make too much noise

[Courtney]

That werewolf actor is like 15 years old.

Amy: because everybody's skin is different, IMO the best thing to do is go to someplace like Sephora and just try on a ton of different shades. Just make sure you sanitize the sample stick first by wiping off the outer layer. Look for shades that have slight blue undertones (veering towards the fuchsia end of the spectrum) instead of the coral/orange side because your skin is pinkish like mine.

Personally, I go for MAC's "MAC Red" when I want a super dramatic lip, and "Fast Play" for a more understated look.

[amyzzz]

Thanks, Courtney.
I don't want blue reds -- I want neutral reds. I don't look good in pinky colors.

[miscorrections]

Red isn't terribly neutral.

[amyzzz]

There is a red smack in the middle of the blue reds and the yellow reds, and that's what I want. :thu

[blackstar]

covergirl lipstain has a great shade of medium red just enough red to look classy but not enough to look whory #440 the tube looks a we bit rosy but it is a nice red. at least with my skin tone which is dash of native/olivey.

[Courtney]

Sorry Amy! I was so excited to share my new lipstick knowledge (this wearing real, solid color as opposed to tinted gloss is a new thing for me), that I didn't understand what you were asking.

For the record, I credit this change to MAC's recycling program, which gives you free lipstick when you bring back empty MAC containers.

[kitt kat]

chat roulette is down. i wanted to fuck with people before work. :(

[amyzzz]

Sorry Amy! I was so excited to share my new lipstick knowledge (this wearing real, solid color as opposed to tinted gloss is a new thing for me), that I didn't understand what you were asking.

For the record, I credit this change to MAC's recycling program, which gives you free lipstick when you bring back empty MAC containers.
I guess I needed to define my terms better. That's awesome about the MAC recycling! I will have to try that out. I have recently tried using glosses again, but alas, my lips are still too big to handle gloss. I need more matte lipsticks, preferably in dull shades (except for red!).

I did find a nice medium beigy pink called Requiem by Urban Decay the other day, and I'm wearing it now, but I realized too late this morning that beigy pink lipstick does not look so well with a red sweater and dark jeans.

[miscorrections]

You're inspiring me to wear lipstick tonight even though I'm going out and it's probably a terrible idea.

[chiapet]

For the record, I credit this change to MAC's recycling program, which gives you free lipstick when you bring back empty MAC containers.

waaaaaat?? That is amazing.

I'm pinkish but also yellowish and olive-y (except a super pale version of that), so red lipstick always makes me look like I'm sunburned or blushing OR have green skin. Oddly super bright and dark pinks work (and don't make me look excessively pink).

If you ever find a truly neutral red, let me know, I'd like to give it a try. :)

[algunz]

No, actually, it can't.

"There are approximately 300,000 sperm at the tip of the penis prior to ejaculation (pre-cum). If your boyfriend inserts his penis into your vagina and tries to withdraw before ejaculation, these sperm can be "milked" into your vagina and you can become pregnant if it is at the right time of the month."

Anything is possible.

If you don't want to get pregnant, use a condom.

[Pixiessp]

For the record, I credit this change to MAC's recycling program, which gives you free lipstick when you bring back empty MAC containers.

I have used Estee Lauder lipstick for years but this news will definitely have me visiting the MAC counter at Macy's very soon.

[algunz]

I just have never been a lipstick person. I've always hated how it gets on stuff and changes the flavor of things. Not that lipgloss is much better, but it's more tolerable. I usually stick to chapstick although this is my favorite lip balm:


http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee218/alessandragunz/HempzLipBalm.jpg

[Pixiessp]

Estee Lauder does not change the taste of anything. It has no flavor.

[algunz]

It still ends up all over everything. :winkiss


There was a group at my middle school called the Rainbow Club. This is the school I work at not went to . . . Yuck!!!

[im_a_starfish]

eve ensler is going to be at UCI for its production of the vagina monologues V-day

[JustSteve]

"There are approximately 300,000 sperm at the tip of the penis prior to ejaculation (pre-cum). If your boyfriend inserts his penis into your vagina and tries to withdraw before ejaculation, these sperm can be "milked" into your vagina and you can become pregnant if it is at the right time of the month."

not entirely true...
http://kinseyconfidential.org/can-you-get-pregnant-from-pre-cum/

"Pre-ejaculate (sometimes called “pre-cum”) is fluid released by the Cowper’s glands, which are two small glands along the male reproductive/urinary tract. This fluid helps to neutralize the otherwise acidic environment of the urethra and, as such, offers protection to sperm that might soon travel that route via ejaculation. The fluid is clear and, in some but not all men, is visible at the tip of the penis during sexual arousal.

Sexuality and health educators often warn individuals that pre-ejaculate might have sperm in it and thus could cause a pregnancy.

Theoretically this is true, as there might be sperm that are still “left over” in the urethra from a previous ejaculation earlier that day or earlier in that same sexual session (either because of masturbation or sexual activity with a partner). Thus if sperm are “left over” in the urethra and then a man’s Cowper’s glands release pre-ejaculatory fluid, and it comes forth to the tip of the penis during arousal, then there is a chance that some sperm could be carried in this fluid and get into his partner’s body, if they are having intercourse without a condom.

Pre-Ejaculate Rarely Contains Sperm

That said, research that has examined the content of pre-ejaculatory fluid has rarely found sperm present in it. This does not mean that sperm is never present in pre-cum; it just means that it does not appear to typically be present"

[JustSteve]

It still ends up all over everything. :winkiss


There was a group at my middle school called the Rainbow Club. This is the school I work at not went to . . . Yuck!!!

oh the stories i have heard around here...

[Suffacated]

I bet you have a vagina.

[Pixiessp]

I found a Pepperidge Farm Goldfish in my bra.

[BROKENDOLL]

Was it spawning?

[kitt kat]

I just got back from the gym...and MAN AM I OUT OF SHAPE :(

It only took me 30 mins on the elliptical to get me all wobbly and lightheaded.

[bballarl]

Did you do the go-to female workout, aka the elliptical and then the vagercise?

[kitt kat]

i don't know what that is, so i'll say no.

but i AM about to go cook dinner!

[obzen]

Woman has "Immortal" cells. Discuss.



The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks
by Rebecca Skloot

Crown Publishing Group
2010

More from Smithsonian.com

Medical researchers use laboratory-grown human cells to learn the intricacies of how cells work and test theories about the causes and treatment of diseases. The cell lines they need are “immortal”—they can grow indefinitely, be frozen for decades, divided into different batches and shared among scientists. In 1951, a scientist at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, created the first immortal human cell line with a tissue sample taken from a young black woman with cervical cancer. Those cells, called HeLa cells, quickly became invaluable to medical research—though their donor remained a mystery for decades. In her new book, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, journalist Rebecca Skloot tracks down the story of the source of the amazing HeLa cells, Henrietta Lacks, and documents the cell line's impact on both modern medicine and the Lacks family.

Who was Henrietta Lacks?
She was a black tobacco farmer from southern Virginia who got cervical cancer when she was 30. A doctor at Johns Hopkins took a piece of her tumor without telling her and sent it down the hall to scientists there who had been trying to grow tissues in culture for decades without success. No one knows why, but her cells never died.

Why are her cells so important?
Henrietta’s cells were the first immortal human cells ever grown in culture. They were essential to developing the polio vaccine. They went up in the first space missions to see what would happen to cells in zero gravity. Many scientific landmarks since then have used her cells, including cloning, gene mapping and in vitro fertilization.

There has been a lot of confusion over the years about the source of HeLa cells. Why?
When the cells were taken, they were given the code name HeLa, for the first two letters in Henrietta and Lacks. Today, anonymizing samples is a very important part of doing research on cells. But that wasn’t something doctors worried about much in the 1950s, so they weren’t terribly careful about her identity. When some members of the press got close to finding Henrietta’s family, the researcher who’d grown the cells made up a pseudonym—Helen Lane—to throw the media off track. Other pseudonyms, like Helen Larsen, eventually showed up, too. Her real name didn’t really leak out into the world until the 1970s.

How did you first get interested in this story?
I first learned about Henrietta in 1988. I was 16 and a student in a community college biology class. Everybody learns about these cells in basic biology, but what was unique about my situation was that my teacher actually knew Henrietta’s real name and that she was black. But that’s all he knew. The moment I heard about her, I became obsessed: Did she have any kids? What do they think about part of their mother being alive all these years after she died? Years later, when I started being interested in writing, one of the first stories I imagined myself writing was hers. But it wasn’t until I went to grad school that I thought about trying to track down her family.

How did you win the trust of Henrietta’s family?
Part of it was that I just wouldn’t go away and was determined to tell the story. It took almost a year even to convince Henrietta’s daughter, Deborah, to talk to me. I knew she was desperate to learn about her mother. So when I started doing my own research, I’d tell her everything I found. I went down to Clover, Virginia, where Henrietta was raised, and tracked down her cousins, then called Deborah and left these stories about Henrietta on her voice mail. Because part of what I was trying to convey to her was I wasn’t hiding anything, that we could learn about her mother together. After a year, finally she said, fine, let’s do this thing.

When did her family find out about Henrietta’s cells?
Twenty-five years after Henrietta died, a scientist discovered that many cell cultures thought to be from other tissue types, including breast and prostate cells, were in fact HeLa cells. It turned out that HeLa cells could float on dust particles in the air and travel on unwashed hands and contaminate other cultures. It became an enormous controversy. In the midst of that, one group of scientists tracked down Henrietta’s relatives to take some samples with hopes that they could use the family’s DNA to make a map of Henrietta’s genes so they could tell which cell cultures were HeLa and which weren’t, to begin straightening out the contamination problem.

So a postdoc called Henrietta’s husband one day. But he had a third-grade education and didn’t even know what a cell was. The way he understood the phone call was: “We’ve got your wife. She’s alive in a laboratory. We’ve been doing research on her for the last 25 years. And now we have to test your kids to see if they have cancer.” Which wasn’t what the researcher said at all. The scientists didn’t know that the family didn’t understand. From that point on, though, the family got sucked into this world of research they didn’t understand, and the cells, in a sense, took over their lives.

How did they do that?
This was most true for Henrietta’s daughter. Deborah never knew her mother; she was an infant when Henrietta died. She had always wanted to know who her mother was but no one ever talked about Henrietta. So when Deborah found out that this part of her mother was still alive she became desperate to understand what that meant: Did it hurt her mother when scientists injected her cells with viruses and toxins? Had scientists cloned her mother? And could those cells help scientists tell her about her mother, like what her favorite color was and if she liked to dance.

Deborah’s brothers, though, didn’t think much about the cells until they found out there was money involved. HeLa cells were the first human biological materials ever bought and sold, which helped launch a multi-billion-dollar industry. When Deborah’s brothers found out that people were selling vials of their mother’s cells, and that the family didn’t get any of the resulting money, they got very angry. Henrietta’s family has lived in poverty most of their lives, and many of them can’t afford health insurance. One of her sons was homeless and living on the streets of Baltimore. So the family launched a campaign to get some of what they felt they were owed financially. It consumed their lives in that way.

What are the lessons from this book?
For scientists, one of the lessons is that there are human beings behind every biological sample used in the laboratory. So much of science today revolves around using human biological tissue of some kind. For scientists, cells are often just like tubes or fruit flies—they’re just inanimate tools that are always there in the lab. The people behind those samples often have their own thoughts and feelings about what should happen to their tissues, but they’re usually left out of the equation.

And for the rest of us?
The story of HeLa cells and what happened with Henrietta has often been held up as an example of a racist white scientist doing something malicious to a black woman. But that’s not accurate. The real story is much more subtle and complicated. What is very true about science is that there are human beings behind it and sometimes even with the best of intentions things go wrong.

One of the things I don’t want people to take from the story is the idea that tissue culture is bad. So much of medicine today depends on tissue culture. HIV tests, many basic drugs, all of our vaccines—we would have none of that if it wasn’t for scientists collecting cells from people and growing them. And the need for these cells is going to get greater, not less. Instead of saying we don’t want that to happen, we just need to look at how it can happen in a way that everyone is OK with.


Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Henrietta-Lacks-Immortal-Cells.html#ixzz0eKBgqqIt (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Henrietta-Lacks-Immortal-Cells.html#ixzz0eKBgqqIt)

[miscorrections]

What does that have to do with anything? Plus cell lines are old news.

[amyzzz]

srsly, if you're not a girl, don't fucking post in here (unless you have legitimate fashion tips).

[locachica73]

I don't really mind the boys coming in if they are helpful with advice on the guys angle but its the ones that can only discuss boobs and vaginas that annoy me.

[obzen]

What does that have to do with anything? Plus cell lines are old news.

Yeah, and doctors still do not know why her cell lines are "immortal".

[miscorrections]

I've been absentmindedly trimming my cuticles with a scalpel at work. It actually works quite well, provided you know the correct amount of pressure to apply and the correct angle at which to slice.

[locachica73]

I would not be very good at that... I have scars from the razor blades i use to have to use at my old job.

[miscorrections]

There's something very satisfying and trimming them so cleanly. If I had no attachment to leaving them intact I'd keep doing it.

[Astrid]

okay ladies, so i know there are already threads dedicated solely to coachella footwear preferences, but ive never found them particularly helpful as it always turns into a barefoot vs. shoefoot debate.

i usually just wear flip flops and take them off for dancing and what not, but i think this year it would be beneficial to invest in a good pair of Comfortable/AIRY shoes/sandals/??? im just looking for some sound advice. my main concern is nothing that will require socks or make me unbearably hot but will not leave my feet aching like a mother fucker at the end of the day.

[littlewolf]

I want on on the girls thread! Have only skimmed a few pages but you guys sure do cover a lot of ground. Nice!

As far as shoes go, I'm conflicted too. This will be my first year at Coachella and I'll probably bring flip flops and Adidas soccer shoes, and neither will be 'just right'. My best friend won't let me leave the house in my Tevas, so that option is out.

[miscorrections]

I usually wear tennis shoes inside the fest because I am extremely paranoid about a) my foot getting stepped on and losing a toenail, b) stepping on something gross, and c) getting a crappy sunburn all over my feet because they do not see the light of day frequently. I think some sort of mesh shoe would be the best, but I'd still wear socks. Otherwise those shoes would be trashbound after just a day.

[rskapcat]

My feet ache from standing whether I am barefoot or wearing tennis shoes. I usually wear flip flops all day (taking them off whenever I'm stationary) and keeping shoes/socks in the locker. When the sun starts to go down, I put on the shoes/socks.

[Astrid]

i dont really mind if the shoes dont survive the weekend. i just want to get some soon so i can break them in. i always end up with coachella blisters which makes life incredibly difficult. no band-aids can withstand such trying times.

[littlewolf]

i dont really mind if the shoes dont survive the weekend. i just want to get some soon so i can break them in. i always end up with coachella blisters which makes life incredibly difficult. no band-aids can withstand such trying times.

Moleskin can help a lot (available at any drug store). If you get blisters in predictable places, put the moleskin on before you even put your shoes on. It's saved me many times. It allows me to go dancing and barhopping in boots with 4" heels, and that's saying something.

[TheWatcher]

I either wear trail running shoes or flat sneakers, depending on how I feel No way am I going to wear something that is going to give me blisters. I don't want to be thinking about my feet all day.

[Ha.SK]

last year i wore my 7 year old converse chucks.

yes they are not the most comfortable shoe in the world but after 7 years of wear and tear (a hole is starting to form on the top plastic part) they were the most comfortablest shoe i could ever imagine wearing to coachella. No socks but still didnt get blisters and my feet didnt sweat.

im planning on wearing them again this year.

[miscorrections]

How do yours last 7 years? Mine die after two or three. And I mean to the point where no amount of duct tape will keep them together.

[Ha.SK]

and i have a questions ladies....will you be wearing a hat this year?

im thinking of getting one but im not sure what kind to get....i dont want to go down the fedora route but i may have to :puke

[juloxx]

Haha.

Silly OP, There are no gurlz on the internet.

[Ha.SK]

How do yours last 7 years? Mine die after two or three. And I mean to the point where no amount of duct tape will keep them together.

i usually wear sandals a lot of the time...im from the desert. but these shoes took at least 3 years for me brake them in and after that i would only occasionally wear them out.

i think also cause these are brown and i had some black ones that i would wear more so then the brown. yea the black ones only lasted for 2 years.

[miscorrections]

Ugh I am having hat problems too. The cute non-fedora ones are expensive, and I refuse to wear a fedora. Maybe I'll just go hatless again and deal with the inevitable sunburned part in my hair.

[Ha.SK]

i wont get a cowboy hate...ever and i dont like base ball caps. hmm were fucked.

[miscorrections]

I want a cute little vintage straw skimmer but everyone else does too so they're getting bid up and whatnot.

[Pixiessp]

I usually just wear a bandana in the day and a knit cap in the evening.

[amyzzz]

I tried a bandana last year, and it looked not good. I need a new hat.

[TheWatcher]

I wear a big floppy hat that is made for wearing in the desert. It's very light and dries very quickly.

[amyzzz]

I want a hat that stays wet.

[SFChrissy]

Check this out girls...I told the ex that I'm definitively going to coachella this year and his reply was that his chick was talking about the two of them going...first of all this fuck tard hasn't worked or financially supported his children in over a year nearly two...and either of them really think or believe that I would give up such a major tradition...pftt!!!

[SFChrissy]

Ugh I am having hat problems too. The cute non-fedora ones are expensive, and I refuse to wear a fedora. Maybe I'll just go hatless again and deal with the inevitable sunburned part in my hair.Sunscreen your scalp...i wore braids the whole wknd of reggae on the river many years ago and my part was so sunburned that it blistered...I always sunscreen my part now!!!

[locachica73]

I usually just stick with a good pair of flip flops, squishy rocket dogs are the best bet because they still provide support and last forever. I have worn the pair I have now for 2 years now and have worn a hole in the bottom of them but they are so comfy and I can dance in them (I do this once a week at least) for hours and they haven't fallen apart yet.

I also always bring a hat. I can't think of what kind of hat they are called, they are the floppy conductor hats? Not sure if that is correct but they are great for dunking in the ice water and sticking on your head when you get over heated. I also have done a bandana, not the best look for me but at coachella fashion isn't my first priority, its more comfort and how will I keep cool in the hottest part of the day.

[amyzzz]

I'm thinking about wearing a bikini top and a sweater soaked in ice water the first day so I can buy t-shirts upon entering and wear them. I always end up buying shirts too late & they get sold out. :(

[locachica73]

After getting my horrible sunburn on Saturday morning in the campsite I kept dunking my towel in ice water and putting it over my shoulders. It felt SO fucking good. LOL

[BROKENDOLL]

This will be my Coachella hat's 7th time at the fest. It's probably just as excited as I am for April to get here!
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w18/1BROKENDOLL/COACHELLA%20SITES/IMGP2580.jpg

[amy2705]

I have a shawl/wrap thing which i just keep wet and keep it over my shoulders when out in the sun. I find the worst part of the day to keep cool is waiting to get into the fest from camping.

[locachica73]

http://i46.tinypic.com/121y45l.jpg

This is the type of hat I always wear. In various colors.

[amyzzz]

I agree that a wet shawl or towel is a good idea. That saved me in 06.

[matildawong]

I haven't worn a hat at Coachella the years I have been. I feel like I don't want anything smothering my head. One year I had some of that scalp/sunscreen spray and we kept using that to cool off our scalps. Sounds weird but it worked.

Cute pic, loca.

[amy2705]

i always forget to put sunscreen on my scalp hurts like hell for the rest of my trip - not so much fun.

[locachica73]

I hate that pic lol, but I keep it because it was my first coachella experience. :)

My hair is really thin on top so I have to wear a hat to avoid sunburn on the scalp. I tried the sunscreen once on my head and it made my hair look greasy. I have heard their is some hairsprays or hair products with sunscreen in them but I don't know if they need to be reaplied throughout the day.

[amy2705]

http://www.sundition.com/Scalp_Sunscreen_Sundition_s/3.htm

[amyzzz]

My Nioxin scalp treatment stuff actually has spf 15. I wouldn't rely on that though -- would rather wear a hat.

[JustSteve]

I have a shawl/wrap thing which i just keep wet and keep it over my shoulders when out in the sun. I find the worst part of the day to keep cool is waiting to get into the fest from camping.

ever tried these? have water absorbing gel/beads that stay wet for hours

http://www.miracool.com/headband-cooling.htm

look kinda goofy on the head, but would probably work around the shoulders, too. seen similar items at sporting goods stores.

[amyzzz]

ever tried these? have water absorbing gel/beads that stay wet for hours

http://www.miracool.com/headband-cooling.htm

look kinda goofy on the head, but would probably work around the shoulders, too. seen similar items at sporting goods stores.
I had something like that in 08, but it didn't stay cool for as long as a thicker, bigger towel would. I used it around my neck.

[Ha.SK]

I have a hat like that loca that Im planning on wearing one of the days but i'd like to get one more hat.

[locachica73]

Target always has some cute hats and they aren't that high priced, and they usually fit me which is not usually the case at most stores, apparently I have a large head.

[TomAz]

I want a hat that stays wet.

if you don't mind looking like an australian golfer, a 'soaker hat' is what you are looking for.

[lau-lau]

okay ladies, so i know there are already threads dedicated solely to coachella footwear preferences, but ive never found them particularly helpful as it always turns into a barefoot vs. shoefoot debate.

i usually just wear flip flops and take them off for dancing and what not, but i think this year it would be beneficial to invest in a good pair of Comfortable/AIRY shoes/sandals/??? im just looking for some sound advice. my main concern is nothing that will require socks or make me unbearably hot but will not leave my feet aching like a mother fucker at the end of the day.

Am loving the girlie thread! My 1st Coachella so super excited after years of a wet & muddy Glasto where wellies are a must! Life is full of shoe dilemmas & although I love my Birkenstocks (soooo comfy), I hate the tan lines and seeing as there'll be some sun - I think I'm gonna go with Havaianas. If you don't like the flipflop kind they have new style with a strap that goes round your ankle.

[chairmenmeow47]

where a floppy old lady church hat, fuck it :)

and i miss wearing heels :( i haven't been able to wear them for months due to back problems. i'm wearing a cute suit today with slip on sandals and it looks horrid.

[allyjoy]

I wish I could weigh in on the hat debate, but my hair does not allow for that accessory... as for shoes, I tend to get a cheap pair of slip-ons and run through the polo grounds content.

[chairmenmeow47]

WE MISS YOU ALLY *HUGS* :pulse

[allyjoy]

Miss you guys too! :dumbo

[Monklish]

http://www.funnyhub.com/content_images/2727_1364_afro-hat-haircut.jpg

[bdfsh]

ha, thats almost as ridiuclous as this shmoooz http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/profile5/1457/36/n643948664_5358.jpg

[chairmenmeow47]

check out that sexy mother fucker

[Monklish]

Try to keep it relevant, weirdo.

[chairmenmeow47]

fuck that, keep it pants. i'm enjoying it :thu

[Monklish]

I gotta say, I do look good.

[JustSteve]

so ladies, if i were to wear one of these would it be the end of the world? i know, it's not original, but it looks comfy...and it's j. crew, my favorite:

http://images.jcrew.com/erez4/erez?src=images/eiec/23/23944/23944_EC1409.tif&tmp=prdDtIm

[amy2705]

My head/hair does not allow for hats, My Volcom flip flops are the best soo comfy. First day you can kinda get away with go bare foot then its just gets nasty.

[miscorrections]

It looks like a girl's hat.

[PotVsKtl]

One time I killed a deer for looking at a girl.

[Ha.SK]

http://www.funnyhub.com/content_images/2727_1364_afro-hat-haircut.jpg

Damn that's fly.

[chiapet]

The converse/sketchers/etc type shoes seem to work out best for me, and I just assume they'll get trashed. I have a really high instep and (unrelatedly) my heel always starts to ache, so I usually throw some sort of insert into them to make them a little more comfy. During the day, I might wear flip flops and take them off when I'm outdoors. They have to come off if I'm dancing though. (How on earth do you dance in them, loca?)

[kitt kat]

so ladies, if i were to wear one of these would it be the end of the world? i know, it's not original, but it looks comfy...and it's j. crew, my favorite:

http://images.jcrew.com/erez4/erez?src=images/eiec/23/23944/23944_EC1409.tif&tmp=prdDtIm

...i have that hat. girl hat.

[locachica73]

The converse/sketchers/etc type shoes seem to work out best for me, and I just assume they'll get trashed. I have a really high instep and (unrelatedly) my heel always starts to ache, so I usually throw some sort of insert into them to make them a little more comfy. During the day, I might wear flip flops and take them off when I'm outdoors. They have to come off if I'm dancing though. (How on earth do you dance in them, loca?)

I can't dance in the cheap flip flops, but the more fitted rocket dogs kind of mold to your feet. Plus, I wear flip flops year round. So I guess I have just gotten the whole toe clinch down. I have a lot of feet problems myself, high arch and planter faschiatis (inflamation of the nerve in the heal) so I have to get squishy shoes and convers/sketchers never work for me.

[chiapet]

I have plantar fasciitis in one heel, and for some reason sketchers usually work. Some of them are squishy. And I usually throw a padded insert thing into shoes any time I'm going to be walking or standing for extended periods of time.

[locachica73]

I use to try the inserts but they always made my shoes too tight. Luckily my heals haven't been bothering me as much as they use to. But I still try to stick with shoes that won't make it flair back up again. I blame the years and years of wearing keds as a teen.

[chiapet]

I think mine is because I go barefoot constantly.

[locachica73]

ok girls I have a question... As women, when out in a bar or something, do you make sure the toilet flushes behind you completely or is that just something you do at home? I mean, when your in the bar and take a piss or god forbid you have to shit, you do make sure the toilet flushes completely right? You don't just do one flush and bail leaving whatever is left in the toilet for the next person to come in and see? Because there are some truly dirty bitches out there who don't do this and it annoys the fuck out of me.

[amyzzz]

I always make sure.

edit: I'm not sure who would actually admit here that they don't...

[miscorrections]

I'm always confused and appalled when I see people didn't flush or didn't check. It's like, it probably takes the same amount of time to rearrange yourself as the flush does to finish so would it KILL you to take a peek and make sure you're not leaving wads of tp or something worse in there? Some people are disgusting.

[locachica73]

Very true amyzzz, although I would hope that any women that I think are cool girls would ever do something this nasty. But maybe it is more of a reminder to women than a question... Please double check girls, it's not that hard, in fact, I would be willing to bet money that the toilet is done flushing before you even get your pants buttoned.

[algunz]

It depends on how drunk I am, but I usually check before exiting, AND I'll wipe the seat. I hate flushing backsplash.

[chairmenmeow47]

it pisses me off too, loca. it pisses me off EXPONENTIALLY more if you used a placebo seat cover and didn't check to see if that flushed. if you are that afraid of toilet seats, you'd think you'd make sure that shit flushed.

[locachica73]

Exactly, and we all know the toilets in bars have horrible water pressure anyway, it's always been the case. I don't even take my hand off the handle till I watch it flush completely... OK good, I am glad I am not the only one.

[MaryS]

Leaving the lid of the little trash can up is almost as bad, you sit down, happen to look over, and yuck! There is a reason those things have lids!

[locachica73]

Most women don't even use that thing, they just leave it in the unflushed toilet. NARSTY

[miscorrections]

I generally find ladies to use the designated receptacle, or at least flush if they don't want to. I don't think I've ever found a tampon in the toilet before. Other things, sure. Tampons, for whatever reason, no.

[amy2705]

Thats pretty disgusting, i used to work in coffee shop and one Saturday i was doing a toilet check and i found two used pregnancy tests just laying on the floor. That was rough. I had to check and she was indeed pregnant. i have OCD about tp being stuck to my shoe i check about 10 times before leaving.

[locachica73]

I use to work at Arby's as a young girl. Some bitch actually went in there and shit on the floor. My male boss tried to get me to clean it up. I informed him they didn't pay me enough to clean up someone elses shit. He could have fired me I guess but I had to draw the line somewhere.

[miscorrections]

You know what drives me crazy? When people come into the bathroom at work for non-bathroom purposes. Say I've had a coffee, and then the coffee gets into motion, right? I go in to do my business but then some bitch comes in to BRUSH HER TEETH. Like, really? You're standing there brushing your teeth in a work bathroom and now I can't follow through? This also applies to people who come in and rinse their mugs in the sink, or do their makeup, or any number of other non-pissing/shitting activities.

[locachica73]

Yes, that annoys the shit out of me... or ummm the opposite I guess. I have horrible stage fright. If I hear people in there doing anything other than bathroom activities I freeze up and have to wait till they leave. I can piss next to someone pissing, but if there are people in there brushing thier teeth or applying makeup... or worse yet, having girl talk, I get stuck. FUCKERS

[amyzzz]

I'm guilty of doing non-toilet stuff. I just used mouthwash this morning, in fact. I try not to make a habit of it though because it bothers me too if someone does that when I'm in the bathroom stall.

[miscorrections]

Yeah, I can piss regardless but otherwise I just leave and hope it's empty later. I hate going to the bathroom at work.

[amyzzz]

I wish there was a little private one-person room on my floor for better privacy. There was one at the previous building I'm worked in, and it was great.

[locachica73]

So this weekend my landlord was suppose to come by and pick up my rent money and fix my dishwasher that has been broken for months, even though he keeps swearing it is going to be fixed. It sucks in dirty water from the sink so we have just stopped using it and handwashing dishes. But the bottom of the dishwasher is full of rotten water and I have no idea how to drain it or fix it because I am not a very handy girl.

I informed him I had to leave at noon and to please come by before then, he said he would be by first thing. At 9:30 I had no word from him. So I text him asking what time he thought he would arrive. He said 11. I told him that the reason I had scheduled first thing is because I wanted to be there when the handyman was there to make sure the repairs actually got done this time. He said he would be there and would make sure the dishwasher ran a complete cycle before letting the handyman leave and then he would lock up for me. I didn't want to but agreed, leaving specific directions with the landlord as to what needed to be done. Then he text me saying he couldn't get there till after noon. I was pissed but as I always say "what can you do right?".

I get home and my door is unlocked, the rent money I left for him was gone, he was nice enough to leave me a receipt so I knew he was there. But no repairs were done. Still a dishwasher full of rotten water, and only enough hot water for a 5 minute shower. This has gone on for months. Why do I have a feeling that if I had a penis this would have all been taken care of months ago?

So I will be moving, and he will probably sue me for failure to finish out my lease, and I will hate the fighting that will be involved with trying to get out of it and will end up having to pay him. All because I suck at confrontation. Yay me.

[miscorrections]

Jesus, grow a backbone. You absolutely should not have to let your deposit go because he's an asshole who won't fix things. That's enough reason, if you've documented each case of failure to fix, to breach contract and get your deposit back.

[locachica73]

I have emails, and told him in my last email with my 30 day notice that I have those emails and would be resending them all via return receipt requested USMail. I just want out at this point though, I would rather live under a bridge then give any more money to this asshole.

[miscorrections]

Seriously, he's a dick. Move out & get your money back.

[chairmenmeow47]

You know what drives me crazy? When people come into the bathroom at work for non-bathroom purposes. Say I've had a coffee, and then the coffee gets into motion, right? I go in to do my business but then some bitch comes in to BRUSH HER TEETH. Like, really? You're standing there brushing your teeth in a work bathroom and now I can't follow through? This also applies to people who come in and rinse their mugs in the sink, or do their makeup, or any number of other non-pissing/shitting activities.

i hate this too. one girl gave me a dirty look this morning because i was standing behind her waiting to wash my hands while she was doing her fucking hair. take two fucking steps to the right and we could both use the counter you fucking idiot.

[miscorrections]

Or just DON'T DO YOUR HAIR IN THE GODDAMN BATHROOM. Do it before you get to work, or do it in your car, or do it at your desk with a fucking mirror. Let people poop in peace.

[TomAz]

you poop in the sink??

[miscorrections]

Who doesn't?

[TomAz]

girls are weird.

[Courtney]

I think I might be in the minority here, but for me, the bathroom is FOR all those personal grooming activities like teeth brushing, makeup applying, and hair brushing, in addition to using the toilet. I think it's inappropriate to apply makeup, brush your hair, or otherwise take care of personal matters in a shared, public office space. It's fine for folks who have private offices with doors that can be shut, but if you're in a communal office space, I'd much rather have people go to the bathroom to do those sorts of things.

[miscorrections]

Who brushes their teeth at work? And I think generally speaking all your personal grooming should be concluded before work begins and can be resumed post-work. Does it really matter if maybe your hair falls a little flat?

[JustSteve]

Yes, that annoys the shit out of me... or ummm the opposite I guess. I have horrible stage fright. If I hear people in there doing anything other than bathroom activities I freeze up and have to wait till they leave. I can piss next to someone pissing, but if there are people in there brushing thier teeth or applying makeup... or worse yet, having girl talk, I get stuck. FUCKERS

can't you just do the cough-shit?

[locachica73]

They should also be bitch slapped if they go in the restroom and spray on a cloud of perfume that I then have to walk through in order to handle my business.

[Courtney]

I brush my teeth at work, if I have just come back from a business lunch and something garlicy or otherwise breath-offensive was served. I have a toothbrush and travel-sized toothpaste stashed in my desk just in case. It doesn't happen everyday, but it does happen occasionally.

I also tend to touch-up lipstick/gloss after lunch.

[miscorrections]

can't you just do the cough-shit?

Pooping requires peace of mind. There is no peace of mind when someone is gargling and and being all toothbrushy.

[locachica73]

can't you just do the cough-shit?

No, I have even tried doing the flush to distract myself... no luck. my bladder and other parts know the difference.

[miscorrections]

I would like to clarify that this entire building is labs and the hospital, so there is absolutely no reason for personal primping.

[locachica73]

I have only primped in the bathroom a few times and it was because I had a date or plans with friends after work and wanted to touch up. But I made sure to use the counter space that didn't involve me blocking a sink, and even then I felt guilt.

[Courtney]

You all are crazy. There should be no guilt in reapplying a little lipstick and powder in the ladies room. That's what it's for.

[miscorrections]

In my line of work there should be. The mice/fish/bacteria/fruit flies/nematodes do not care if your face is a little shiny. Nor does anyone you work with.

[locachica73]

reapplying a little gloss or puffing the hair is one thing, doing your entire face or curling your hair while blocking the sink so others cant wash thier hands is another. There has to be a time limit so it's not interfering with other peoples need to piss or shit. :p

[miscorrections]

It should be noted that for a normal person reapplying gloss takes approximately two seconds so that is not problematic either in the bathroom or at one's work station.

[HowToDisappear]

Courtney is right. Not that I wear makeup , but if I did, I would be touching it up in the bathroom. I was always taught that it is hugely improper to attend to personal grooming in a public space. I especially can't stand to see a woman adjust her hair/makeup at a table in a restaurant. Excuse yourself, and go to the restroom. And if you need to brush your teeth, by all means brush them.

Doing anything at length that impedes others ability to simply wash their hands is rude in any case.

[locachica73]

LOL, the chick that Nick was seeing when him and I first started dating would pull out dental floss and floss her teeth anywhere, even at the poker table. It use to gross me the fuck out.

[miscorrections]

Courtney is right. Not that I wear makeup , but if I did, I would be touching it up in the bathroom. I was always taught that it is hugely improper to attend to personal grooming in a public space. I especially can't stand to see a woman adjust her hair/makeup at a table in a restaurant. Excuse yourself, and go to the restroom. And if you need to brush your teeth, by all means brush them.

Doing anything at length that impedes others ability to simply wash their hands is rude in any case.

Maybe I'm just cranky because I'm backed up and can't do anything about it when there's someone in there. Still, it's irritating.

[HowToDisappear]

No one's comfortable with other people in the restroom while they're doing their business. That doesn't mean those other people aren't entitled to use the sink/vanity area.

Now people on their cellphones in the restroom --- that's unacceptable. Worse yet, on the toilet and talking on the phone while they're peeing. Flabbergasting.

[miscorrections]

I will talk to my mom on the phone while peeing, or my brother, but only in the comfort and privacy of my own apartment.