The Girls Only Thread

[sames44]

that's a good one for toes, as is "Affair in Red Square"

[locachica73]

My daughter gets mad because I always end up with some deep red color. I am not much of a "pink" girl and purples annoy me as well. I did go with a construction cone orange once. That was fun. :)

(BD's posts don't normally bother me but the mental image that one brought was a little disturbing.)

[amyzzz]

Yeah, I don't do pink either. Some purples are good though, very dark or bright violet. I made the mistake of wearing yellow polish on my hand (green on the other), and now my nails are forever stained yellow on that hand until they grow out. Ugh.

[Courtney]

I'm pretty impressed that you ladies can all rattle out polish color names. I usually only pay attention to the color.

However, I suppose the exception is Essie brand Mademoiselle polish, a sheer pink neutral which is my go-to color for my fingernails, to the point that I actually keep a bottle in my personal box kit at the nail salon.

[amyzzz]

The orange I mentioned is called Atomic Orange btw (from OPI). I really like orange.

[locachica73]

The only name I remember is the one I mentioned because the name always made me laugh. But whenever I go get my toes done I go through a bunch of colors and read the names because they are typically pretty clever. Pedicures are about the extent of my girly nature.

[BROKENDOLL]

Thanks, BD. It was about time for my daily purge.
If you purge regularly, then I can be of aid twice a week if you'd like.:rolleyes


What? You grew out your moustache?
This went over my head. Could you elaborate?


My daughter gets mad because I always end up with some deep red color. I am not much of a "pink" girl and purples annoy me as well. I did go with a construction cone orange once. That was fun. :)

(BD's posts don't normally bother me but the mental image that one brought was a little disturbing.)
If I told you I was wearing a pink ribbon would it have seemed less disturbing? Seriously, breast cancer is a big concern of mine right now. Anything I can do to help prevent it should be practiced. (Even Pete agrees.:winkiss)


http://tatom.org/documents/CNN.com-StudyNewstudyshows.htm

[algunz]

This went over my head. Could you elaborate?




Movember

[locachica73]

Amyzzz, I saw this article on MSN and thought of you. It lists different ways to wear leggings which isn't hard to figure out I suppose but with each picture they list where the leggings came from. Some of them are pretty crazy looking but fun. :)

http://lifestyle.msn.com/your-look/everyday-style/staticslideshowglamour.aspx?cp-documentid=21959969&GT1=32002

[miscorrections]

I don't paint my nails because a) I bite them, b) I always pick at the nail polish and end up chipping it away, and c) wearing gloves all the time in lab tends to wear the polish off quickly even if I didn't pick. I do keep my toenails painted, though. I tend to rotate between silver, pale pink, and a happy bright coral color.

[amyzzz]

That's pretty cool, loca. Thanks! I got a pair of shiny black leggings in the mail yesterday. So excited to try them out!

[locachica73]

My fingernails are really thin and flimsy so paint chips off super fast. When I was younger and it was "the thing to do" I use to go get my nails done with acrylics all the time but I am not only big but I am also big boned, I blame the german blood in me. So even when I had long pretty nails it still looked like mans hands with a manicure. But that shit ruined what fingernails I did have.

[kitt kat]

i have shitty nails. theyre thin and like little circles :(

[miscorrections]

Mine are pretty weak, they tend to peel and break once they grow.

[amyzzz]

Mie have been peeling down the sides more lately, and I'm wondering if I need to eat better or what. They don't always do that.

[miscorrections]

Oh my cuticles are ALWAYS fucked. They shred like it's their job.

[chiapet]

Sports bras for big tits: you want one that fastens on (hooks/eyes) rather than pulls on - the pullover kind are too stretchy and will let you bounce; that has actual cups rather than just a tank top style; the cups/boob area should not be very stretchy.

Basically think of pointy old lady bras and you've got it.

My marathoner friend swears by this one and she is a G cup. heh.

http://www.barenecessities.com/Shock-Absorber-Level-4-Max-No-Wire-Sports-Bra_product_ShockAbsorberB109_,search,36DDD.htm

But there are lots of slightly less ugly ones. To protect your boobs, you are most likely going to want something ugly. You can always wear a cute "sports bra" over it. ;)

[BROKENDOLL]

:eek: A "G" Cup?!!:eek:
My God, that's like a butt cheek! And I'll be honest, I went back to the site with the bouncing tits to see because I can't imagine what a "G" cup would look like, and I was visualizing a pair of like matching bean bags.

All I can say is, "Ouch!" It must be insane trying to find clothes, let alone bras to harbor those! And just the fact that you have to lug them around 24/7 has to be an endurance test each day!

[kitt kat]

I love having small boobs. I never have to deal with these problems. They sound so horrid.

[Astrid]

I love having small boobs. I never have to deal with these problems. They sound so horrid.

theyre great.

[locachica73]

My girlfriend was a DD all through high school. She use to hate going bra shopping with my because I could buy these cute $10 bras with lace and frills and only one hook. She on the other hand would have to get gramma bras with 4 hooks in the back. Then she got pregnant a few years later and ended up with F size boobs. Poor girl couldn't walk upright hardly. Bad back pain, shoulder pain, it was horrible. I lost contact with her when I moved here but I know she dreamed of the day she could get a reduction. I will take my ittybitty's over that anyday.

[chairmenmeow47]

thanks, chia. i really don't care how they look, i more just bought the one at target because it was cheap and i tend to purchase way more than i need when i'm at target, lol.

[locachica73]

Target pumps something through the vents for that to happen I think. Everyone I know goes in for one thing and leaves with 3 bags at least.

[chiapet]

I consider it an accomplishment when I leave Target with only one bag. I'm kinda glad they don't have one within SF proper or I'd be broke.

BD, "G"s are big but not as crazy as you are imaging. Most brands go DD-E-F-G, so a G is like 5" bigger around the entire chest measurement than a C.

For pespective, those of you who've seen me know I'm not toppling over due to boobs and I wear E or F (depending on US or European).

[amyzzz]

I guess I should consider it a blessing that I can forget to wear a bra under a T-shirt and not notice it for several hours -- that happened after the Thursday rainstorm at Bonnaroo.

[chairmenmeow47]

hey, i need the multiple bags since i use them to line my small trash cans :p

[amyzzz]

haha, Target bags are awesome. I can't seem to leave that store without spending at least $50 and many times well over $100.

[chiapet]

Yea, I have to completely avoid one side of the store if I want to get out under $100. The DVDs always suck me in.

[BROKENDOLL]

Target pumps something through the vents for that to happen I think. Everyone I know goes in for one thing and leaves with 3 bags at least.
Target does that too? I know I went into the big WalMart we have here a week ago for like maybe 5-6 items, and an hour later I was stuck in line with $287 worth of stuff and 93 people that no vent in the world could change the scent of! Seriously, I almost bailed on that shopping cart!

[locachica73]

I refuse to shop at walmart. I hate that place.

[algunz]

I guess I should consider it a blessing that I can forget to wear a bra under a T-shirt and not notice it for several hours -- that happened after the Thursday rainstorm at Bonnaroo.

I only wear bras when I'm working, otherwise I try to completely avoid them.

[amyzzz]

Well, I do have to wear loose, dark T-shirts with a picture on the front to avoid detection if I go bra-less. Anything snug or light-colored will not suffice.

[locachica73]

I wish I could go without bras but unfortunately everytime I passed a fan everyone would know. I sleep in a wife beater and shorts usually and I got hungry so I went out to the kitchen to get some food, my son and all his friends were there and I didn't even think about it. Caught one of the friends staring at my chest. Yeah fucking great.

[amyzzz]

Loose, dark T-shirts with a design on the front. Try it, loca.

[BROKENDOLL]

I consider it an accomplishment when I leave Target with only one bag. I'm kinda glad they don't have one within SF proper or I'd be broke.

BD, "G"s are big but not as crazy as you are imaging. Most brands go DD-E-F-G, so a G is like 5" bigger around the entire chest measurement than a C.

For pespective, those of you who've seen me know I'm not toppling over due to boobs and I wear E or F (depending on US or European).
Not as crazy??? Did you watch that "bouncemeter," chia? That would be like a constant game of dodgeball! I'll stick with badmitton, thank you. (How's that for perspective? LOL)


I guess I should consider it a blessing that I can forget to wear a bra under a T-shirt and not notice it for several hours -- that happened after the Thursday rainstorm at Bonnaroo.
With as hot as it got a couple times this summer, I felt pretty blessed to be able to sit and watch TV with Pete and we both had our shirts off. Fortunately, he did notice and thought it was pretty cool...I'm wondering though if he felt like it was a guy night since we were watching all those shows like "Ice Road Truckers," or the dudes that are fishing for crabs in Alaska?


hey, i need the multiple bags since i use them to line my small trash cans :p
I use that same theory when shopping! Well, except for that day at WalMart...I think they were trying to justify the $287 by bagging 2 items per bag and making it look good!

No, people! Shove as much shit in each bag so I don't have anything to explain when I walk in the front door!!!

[TheWatcher]

Well, I wear a DDD/F, and I can sometimes find those pullover stretchy sports bras at Target that fit me. Most of them don't, but now and then I get lucky. The XL or XXL might fit.

I've basically given up on finding anything that both provides "support" and that I can wear without being tortured. Either I can't breathe, or my neck and shoulders kill me. Much more comfortable going without. My main complaint is it makes me look fatter than I actually am.

It doesn't really hurt when I run unless I'm having PMS or something, but I guess it's not supposed to be good.

I'd get a reduction but I'm too much afraid of being in a hospital setting. Mainly afraid of catching something while there.

[BROKENDOLL]

BRAINSTORM!
I could try using those small bags to line my little bra cups!

[TheWatcher]

Loose, dark T-shirts with a design on the front. Try it, loca.

That describes most of my wardrobe.

[locachica73]

I am incapable of keeping t-shirts or sweatshirts, whenever I get any my kids take them. 2 more years though and I get my own room, own clothes and can walk around naked if I want. YAY

[BROKENDOLL]

I'm too much afraid of being in a hospital setting. Mainly afraid of catching something while there.

THIS is some funny thinking! LOL

[BROKENDOLL]

Okay, question time...Since I've never made it past my B's, what is the difference between a "D" cup and a "DDD" cup? I only recall "A-AA-AAA, B, and C." Does that mean B's and C's are stuck with the "If you've seen one, you've seen them all," or what?

[amyzzz]

I am incapable of keeping t-shirts or sweatshirts, whenever I get any my kids take them. 2 more years though and I get my own room, own clothes and can walk around naked if I want. YAY
Oh man, this is what I have to look forward to. I already let my 9 year old borrow my sweaters sometime, but I always regret it because, let's face it, she's a slob with her food and always gets stains on them.

[BROKENDOLL]

I am incapable of keeping t-shirts or sweatshirts, whenever I get any my kids take them. 2 more years though and I get my own room, own clothes and can walk around naked if I want. YAY LOL Why wait 2 years Loca? Just do the naked thing now. No kid wants to watch Mom prance around naked unless they're still breast feeding. Why be subtle, they're adults, aren't they? LOL

[amyzzz]

I remember cringing when my mom used to be so lackadaisical about her in-house nudity, and now I do it around my girls sometimes. I'm such a bad mom and I need to stop! ha.

[chiapet]

BD, every cup size adds an inch. In theory.

TheWatcher, ok, so I am a DDD and I can buy a XL or XXL "sports bra" which will fit on my body. That doesn't mean it works well. :) It is okay for very mild impact stuff (yoga, cycling, etc) but if I'm going to run or do anything with jumping/bouncing, I would want to wear something more substantial. Even though the stretchy ones are tight, they're not really very protective. It's not even that I bounce that much but that I feel like not having the right support in those situations will make them saggier later. ;)

[amyzzz]

I really think the scientists need to come up with some sort of nanotechnology to support the boobs, like NOW.

[chiapet]

I remember cringing when my mom used to be so lackadaisical about her in-house nudity, and now I do it around my girls sometimes. I'm such a bad mom and I need to stop! ha.

Do you really think that it's bad? I don't have kids so it's easy for me to disagree... Every little girl looks up to her mom. If I had girls I'd rather than get used to seeing real body types and to build their self-image off of that than to think they have to look like models or actresses.

The people I know with kind of "nudie" parents have the most fabulous self-image, even the heavy girls think they look good naked.

[BROKENDOLL]

Oh man, this is what I have to look forward to. I already let my 9 year old borrow my sweaters sometime, but I always regret it because, let's face it, she's a slob with her food and always gets stains on them.
Amyzzz, how do you do it? I mean, from the Bonnaroo TuTu to the Maternal Apron and raising children? You're like a chameleon, aren't you?

[locachica73]

LOL Why wait 2 years Loca? Just do the naked thing now. No kid wants to watch Mom prance around naked unless they're still breast feeding. Why be subtle, they're adults, aren't they? LOL


I remember cringing when my mom used to be so lackadaisical about her in-house nudity, and now I do it around my girls sometimes. I'm such a bad mom and I need to stop! ha.

I will be in my room in my bra and panties and the kids will walk in, not an issue. But my kids are very modest about nakedness. If you even walk past their bathroom door they yell "IM IN HERE" in fear I will try to walk in on them. They have walked in on me fully naked and been all "MOMMMMM" but that is their punishment for not knocking lol. But I don't really feel a need to give thier friends shows considering they are all 17 - 20 years old. It's bad enough their friends all call me "the cool mom", nudie shows would give that a whole new meaning.

[amyzzz]

Chia, yeah, I already know from seeing my mom naked in my childhood years that I will have fabulous breasts for my age when I'm 50 or 60, so that's a good thing I guess. I've always felt that my mom is the most embarrassing mom on the face of the Earth though, so that's just one of the things I like to put on my list of Embarrassing Things My Mom Did. Maybe I should move it the the Cool Things My Mom Did list. :thu

I guess this should all be in the Social Group. Oh well. Bring on the nasty male comments about my old age and bad looks.

[locachica73]

Chia, yeah, I already know from seeing my mom naked in my childhood years that I will have fabulous breasts for my age when I'm 50 or 60, so that's a good thing I guess. I've always felt that my mom is the most embarrassing mom on the face of the Earth though, so that's just one of the things I like to put on my list of Embarrassing Things My Mom Did. Maybe I should move it the the Cool Things My Mom Did list. :thu

I guess this should all be in the Social Group. Oh well. Bring on the nasty male comments about my old age and bad looks.

My mother passed out naked while sitting on the toilet one night with the bathroom door wide open. I brought friends home and sent them to my room while I went into the kitchen. They were the ones who found her, then when I went in to wake her and put her to bed she knocked my ass in the bathtub. Now that was embarrassing.

[chiapet]

My mom was always very self conscious about her body, not only was she not naked around us, I remember her getting a little upset about being caught in a bra without a shirt. She was also clearly unhappy with her body and brought me to understand that her size was "fat". I think she was a 10? Not to make her sound like a bad mom, this is nothing compared to the drama she got from her own mother, and she did realize later (long after I moved out) that she didn't do me any favors for self-image.

[locachica73]

I don't know where my kids got their modesty from. I use to take showers with my daughter when she was younger just to save time. I am not really all that modest around them. But at some point, around the age of 10 they both got really weird about their bodies. Although my daughter will moon people on a regular basis but other then that she stays covered.

[amyzzz]

My mother passed out naked while sitting on the toilet one night with the bathroom door wide open. I brought friends home and sent them to my room while I went into the kitchen. They were the ones who found her, then when I went in to wake her and put her to bed she knocked my ass in the bathtub. Now that was embarrassing.
Ok, that is pretty embarrassing. My mom just says the most ridiculous, off-handed things about bodily functions in public, which is just awful. The women in my family are completely tactless (genetically?), and I find myself saying hurtful, tactless things when I really don't mean to be hurtful. HATE THAT. Stupid words just roll off my tongue before I've thought them through.

[amyzzz]

I don't know where my kids got their modesty from. I use to take showers with my daughter when she was younger just to save time. I am not really all that modest around them. But at some point, around the age of 10 they both got really weird about their bodies. Although my daughter will moon people on a regular basis but other then that she stays covered.
I think puberty does that to children; their bodies are changing and it's embarrassing to them.

[locachica73]

Yeah, I just noticed my sons underarm hair the other day. That was strange as a mom. And I remember the point when he started taking extremely longer showers. I wanted to just curl up and cry. And I damn near needed prozac when I realized my daughter had boobs. UGH

[Young blood]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/1253097178683.jpg

[herro kitty]

http://www.3wishes.com/images/kungfucutie-d.jpg

Instead of saving money for groceries and clothing, I just spent $60 on this. I do not regret anything!!!!!!!!

[locachica73]

Barbara, you are going to look adorable in that. :)

[rskapcat]

Have any of you ever run into an ex and felt like you're talking to an alien? I figured I'd run into the guy I dated before I met Andy at the SDRE show last night, and I did. He was always socially retarded, but talking to him were some of the most awkward minutes of my life. And it had nothing to do with the fact that he's seen my boobs...I spent the entire time thinking, "Did I really date this guy?" Dunno...guess he hasn't changed in 10 years, but I have. What a strange encounter.

[locachica73]

Everytime I spend time with Nino now I think... WTF was I thinking. I just walk away shaking my head. It's the same stupid shit coming out of his mouth now as it was then, but then I thought... awww cute... now I just want to vomit.

[rskapcat]

What's funny is that if I ran into a guy I dated...eek...15 years ago (John, my Vietnamese rock star), we would have no trouble talking music, what's going on in our lives, etc. We probably could have been friends, had we been better about staying in touch. I guess the difference is Vietnamese rock star and I had a lot in common before we started dating. Jonny (social tard I saw last night) and I had nothing. I was intrigued by the fact that he was a loner, and only after we started dating did I figure out WHY he always sat quietly in a corner! I suspect he may be borderline autistic. I believe the reason we dated was to teach me everything I didn't want in a guy. Met Andy 2 nights after Jonny and I broke up. Go figure.

[Aurgasm]

I really think the scientists need to come up with some sort of nanotechnology to support the boobs, like NOW.

*Seal of Approval*

[locachica73]

What's funny is that if I ran into a guy I dated...eek...15 years ago (John, my Vietnamese rock star), we would have no trouble talking music, what's going on in our lives, etc. We probably could have been friends, had we been better about staying in touch. I guess the difference is Vietnamese rock star and I had a lot in common before we started dating. Jonny (social tard I saw last night) and I had nothing. I was intrigued by the fact that he was a loner, and only after we started dating did I figure out WHY he always sat quietly in a corner! I suspect he may be borderline autistic. I believe the reason we dated was to teach me everything I didn't want in a guy. Met Andy 2 nights after Jonny and I broke up. Go figure.

It's funny how we realize these things as we get older. Just don't try to explain them to your daughters/nieces/younger sisters... Because that will make them even more attractive. Suddenly quiet autistic guy sitting in the corner is the love of their lives. bleh.

[rskapcat]

I was 18 when I dated him...the fact that my parents didn't like him was like catnip. Stupid, stupid, stupid. When I find out an acquaintance knows him, I'm embarrassed to admit I ever dated him. Yeah, that bad.

[chairmenmeow47]

http://www.3wishes.com/images/kungfucutie-d.jpg

Instead of saving money for groceries and clothing, I just spent $60 on this. I do not regret anything!!!!!!!!

YES! i hope you giggle, jump around & yell "YE-TAH!" a lot :p

[Aurgasm]

YES! i hope you giggle, jump around & yell "YE-TAH!" a lot :p

*Seal of Approval*

[locachica73]

My ex husband popped up out of the blue again recently. He went to my sisters ex husbands house looking for me. He didn't leave a number but my sister was going through old contacts in her computer yesterday and found the number. My son has been trying to find him on the internet but didn't have any luck. My ex wasn't all that ummm computer savvy. So I called the number and left the "if this is tony" message. He called me back last night. He is now seperated from his most recent ex wife, the one he knocked up while married to me, lives about a mile from where I work and manages a Little Ceasers Pizza place. I admit to being just a little curious as to what he looks like now. When we were married he was a total gym rat, every day at the gym, sometimes twice a day if time permitted. Chicken and rice for dinner every night, total health freak. After we seperated he got together with his new baby momma and her only cooking ability was McDonalds drive through. Yes... Just a little curious.

[chiapet]

When I find out an acquaintance knows him, I'm embarrassed to admit I ever dated him. Yeah, that bad.

There is really only one person I am completely embarrassed about, and that is this really really repulsive person (looks and personality both so ugly) who knows a lot of my friends. There are plenty of others who were probably mistakes, but I don't really regret them because they all played a part in making me who I am. I figure if you can get to our age and only regret one person, you're doing awfully well.

[rskapcat]

I agree, Heidi. :)

[sames44]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/1253097178683.jpg

I saw this picture yesterday, then had a nightmare last night that I had '80's-style giant poofy bangs again and wondered what my face to bang ratio was. terrifying.

[obzen]

http://www.3wishes.com/images/kungfucutie-d.jpg

Win.

[locachica73]

I finally grew all my hair the same length and bangs are back. ugh.

[SFChrissy]

YO girls...help a sister out please...a really good friend of mine is now dating a friend/acquaintence of mine that I've known for nearly 20 yrs...I've seen him damage some girls in the past and he's always talking down to women...I've been on an anti kick with him cause I don't think he's good enough for my girl and I don't want to see her get hurt...she's definately the better candidate of the couple and I could see her cutting him loose first but my dilema is that she wants us all to hang out and i don't want to be anywhere near him cause he's got ulghhh written all over him...so she's bumbed because I won't compromise my intuition in regards to this guy...

am I a lame friend or just protective???

[miscorrections]

You should still hang out with her, just let her know how you feel and what the basis for your feelings are.

[locachica73]

But try not to talk shit about the boy to the friend. Even if she comes to you and vents about the relationship, just listen and nod and agree.

[chairmenmeow47]

YO girls...help a sister out please...a really good friend of mine is now dating a friend/acquaintence of mine that I've known for nearly 20 yrs...I've seen him damage some girls in the past and he's always talking down to women...I've been on an anti kick with him cause I don't think he's good enough for my girl and I don't want to see her get hurt...she's definately the better candidate of the couple and I could see her cutting him loose first but my dilema is that she wants us all to hang out and i don't want to be anywhere near him cause he's got ulghhh written all over him...so she's bumbed because I won't compromise my intuition in regards to this guy...

am I a lame friend or just protective???

better to have a friend than to hate the boyfriend. she's your really good friend, be friendly to the guy to keep her happy. she has to learn the lesson the hard way...

[BROKENDOLL]

Chia, yeah, I already know from seeing my mom naked in my childhood years that I will have fabulous breasts for my age when I'm 50 or 60, so that's a good thing I guess. I've always felt that my mom is the most embarrassing mom on the face of the Earth though, so that's just one of the things I like to put on my list of Embarrassing Things My Mom Did. Maybe I should move it the the Cool Things My Mom Did list. :thu
I guess this should all be in the Social Group. Oh well. Bring on the nasty male comments about my old age and bad looks.
The last several posts about mothers made me kind of sad. It's been 6 years since I lost my mom and I'd give anything to have her here to help me get to 50 and still look as good as she did at that age... This was her 50th birthday and my dad got her a racy red 1989 Camaro to match. :pulse Mom :pulse
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w18/1BROKENDOLL/MOM.jpg

[miscorrections]

My roots are starting to irritate me and I can't afford another great pricey haircolor. I think it's about time to grab a box and do it dark brown.

[kitt kat]

i'm due for a dye soon, too, but i need a haircut more. i'm a walking split end.

[miscorrections]

I need a cut too, my bangs are taking over my face.

[BROKENDOLL]

But try not to talk shit about the boy to the friend. Even if she comes to you and vents about the relationship, just listen and nod and agree.
While that may sound good, I'm really thankful for a girlfriend of mine that I share a "pair of shoes with." That imaginary pair of shoes was something we came up with one drunken girl's night out when I commented on her advice being like the shoe I couldn't find that would keep my feet grounded when a boyfriend would upset me. (You know, when you're about to make an ass of yourself for the sake of love or what you thought was love.) She didn't always tell me what I wanted to hear, but Lord knows by listening to her, I saved myself any added heartache a lot of times! We don't see each other very often, but the "shoe thing" lives on through gift giving between us on birthdays and Xmas. We both collect shoes, real and decorative knick-knacks between us. BTW...we're both finally happy in love and own lots of shoes too! LOL


My roots are starting to irritate me and I can't afford another great pricey haircolor. I think it's about time to grab a box and do it dark brown.


i'm due for a dye soon, too, but i need a haircut more. i'm a walking split end.


I need a cut too, my bangs are taking over my face.
Great! You both had to remind me that it's that time again, didn't you? Thanks to the last coloring I did, I created a project this time...
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w18/1BROKENDOLL/Picture188.jpg
I've got the two-tone thing goin' on with added streaks/hi-lites, and trying to get the same effect is gonna be tricky...It took 2 days to complete it last time and trying to match it up with all the hair I have should be a kick. Should I mention I picked up a shade of auburn I really liked just in case I had a mood swing and decided to go one color.( I'm just not sure I want to be a red until the next mood swing.) <<<Especially with the frequent mood swings I've had lately! LOL

[chiapet]

I was thinking about dyeing today too. I long ago gave up salon dyes, I just use a ~$15 drug store kit and leave it at that.

[BROKENDOLL]

I was thinking about dyeing today too. I long ago gave up salon dyes, I just use a ~$15 drug store kit and leave it at that.
For as much as it appears we're always fucking with out hair around here, yeah, that cost makes sense. I'm curious since I haven't worked in a salon for awhile, nor gone to one, how much on the average it costs for a cut and color these days. How about perms? (Like I need more body in my hair! Right! LOL)

[miscorrections]

My last cut and color at a nice salon was $150 post tip. It was a great cut/color, though, and I don't mind paying more for something that will grow out attractively.

[rskapcat]

Beverly, I think a darker shade, such as auburn, would suit you well. Not TOO dark, but darker.

I don't color my hair, but I pay $50 plus tip to get my hair cut. Worth every penny. Love my stylist.

[Pixiessp]

No coloring here either. Used to have a big reddish orange streak though.
It was supposed to be blood red but the girl got the color wrong.
Still looked cool. I think i am growing my hair out......again. :)

[rskapcat]

I've given Anthony permission to take my hair as short as he likes, so we'll see what he does next time.

[amyzzz]

my split ends are driving me nuts plus my bangs are too long. I can't afford a good haircut yet though.

[BROKENDOLL]

My last cut and color at a nice salon was $150 post tip. It was a great cut/color, though, and I don't mind paying more for something that will grow out attractively.


I really need to renew my license and start doing hair again! Damn! $150? With as much and as fast as this shit on my head grows, That would be a monthly expense I couldn't afford! Wow!

[miscorrections]

I only get haircuts ever two months and I'm working on three with this one. Without the dye job it probably would've been about $70 after tip.

[hawkingvsreeve]

Your hair doesnt seem too difficult to color if you are just doing one color without highlights or anything like that. Dont use the box stuff though, get some developer and use a professional permanent dye. It's cheaper in the long run as well.

[chiapet]

My haircuts are $100 including tip, but I only get my hair cut a few times a year, and it is worth every penny. My hair is long and I have tons of it, so she spends about an hour layering and thinning.

I really only go to a salon when I am doing multi process dye jobs, and in those situations the bill for cut + dye is usually ~$250.

Brandon, I used to use professional perm dyes exclusively but I've started not liking the way they look on my hair. Maybe it's just that I like to change my color often and can't get that with perm without damaging my hair too much.

[hawkingvsreeve]

Yeah, you dont want to keep dying it over and over in a short time span. I know you like brighter colors which is hard because you have to lift your original color, which is where the bulk of the damage is. You could always try a really high developer and just use a lot of conditioner when showering.

[Astrid]

Yeah, you dont want to keep dying it over and over in a short time span. I know you like brighter colors which is hard because you have to lift your original color, which is where the bulk of the damage is. You could always try a really high developer and just use a lot of conditioner when showering.

do NOT. use exactly what developer the specific dye requires. use a protein pack when youre done.

i just dyed my hair with permanent dye for the first time ever. it smells and burns. gross shit. my pretty colored dyes smell like candy sometimes...mm. being a bright red head is FUN. i also just started cutting my own hair, risky considering my hair, but free.

[RotationSlimWang]

Seriously, girls, don't dye your hair. Most of the time we think it's prettier the way it is.

[Astrid]

one day ill stop. im restless and enjoy colors. i also dont do it to please men, i do it because i find it to be pleasing.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Dying is your hair is a good way to make a guy like me try to pork you.*












*Because I'll think you're stupid.

[chiapet]

Brandon, stronger developers just fry my hair. Fine curly hair + heavy processing = frizz. I literally burned my hair off once when I was 23 using like 40 or something.

Astrid, what do you use? Punky? I loved the smell of those.

[chiapet]

How does dyeing ones hair relate in any way to being stupid? Are we talking bottle blondes or something?

[hawkingvsreeve]

Brandon, stronger developers just fry my hair. Fine curly hair + heavy processing = frizz. I literally burned my hair off once when I was 23 using like 40 or something.

Astrid, what do you use? Punky? I loved the smell of those.

Well, then I suggest giving your hair a break.

[matildawong]

I was growing my bangs out and then finally couldn't handle it anymore and cut them myself. Of course, they don't look that great but I've gone through this cycle more times than I can count. I guess I have no patience. And I usually decide longish bangs look better on me....

... except that when I cut them myself I often go too short trying to even them up. ugh.

[chiapet]

Well, then I suggest giving your hair a break.

? That was a decade ago, brandon. I don't do too much damage these days. Coachella was the only time I've done bright colors in the last few years.

[Astrid]

i use special effects. i used to use raw when they had it at hot topic, all of the different colors smell like their respective fruity counterparts.

i really dont see how dying your hair makes you dumb either? i could see it as a waste of money, sure. um....yeah thats all ive got. its just another aspect of creative expressionism when it comes to your physical appearance. you might as well say WEARING A WIDE VARIETY OF CLOTHING MAKES YOU DUMB.

[rskapcat]

if I cut my own bangs, I separate them into chunks, twist them, & cut in vertically. It creates a messy-on-purpose look, rather than a my-5-year-old-cut-my-hair look.

[hawkingvsreeve]

I dont have a complete history of your hair nor do I know when you do anything to it. I was talking about the brighter colors anyway. Forget it, doesn't matter.

[matildawong]

Oh rskapcat I used to try that but I was always going kind of at an angle (??) -- thanks for the tip.

[rskapcat]

My hair has some curl to it, so I can get away with bangs that aren't quite even or straight. I'm sure it would be more difficult if a person had super-straight hair.

[matildawong]

Snerk. Like me. ha ha.

[matildawong]

I know this isn't the place but this is the most I've posted in one session.... Brandon, do you work at the Natural History Museum?

(if you're still here)

[Courtney]

if I cut my own bangs, I separate them into chunks, twist them, & cut in vertically. It creates a messy-on-purpose look, rather than a my-5-year-old-cut-my-hair look.

I need to learn how to cut my own bangs, badly. How big are your chunks that you separate?

[chiapet]

Oh Brandon, I guess I was just saying, of course, take a break in that situation... I did take a very long break from dyeing. :)

Since it's the girls' thread I'll make a confession that I'm starting to get to the age where I need to dye. :/ I have this tiny patch of white hairs... okay so it's like 10 hairs in one spot but it's by my face so it's noticeable. It is so tempting just to pluck them out.

I have no idea how long they were there because I didn't see them until I stopped dyeing my hair so much. :)

[matildawong]

Are yours snow white, chia? Mine are WHITE. Not even grey.

[chiapet]

Yea, bright white. It's weird because I have brown hair. They're actually a pretty color that I'd be happy to have if I were like 60. :/

[matildawong]

Same here. I mean, I keep hoping that maybe It'll just turn into a cool, Cruella de Ville-like streak before it manifests into whole-head or something....

(edited to add, I have brown hair too. The white is a cool color post-60ish, as you say.)

[malcolmjamalawesome]

MATILDA MUTHA-FUCKIN WONG

[matildawong]

Oh hai.

I posted too much, didn't I?

[chiapet]

Same here. I mean, I keep hoping that maybe It'll just turn into a cool, Cruella de Ville-like streak before it manifests into whole-head or something....

That is what mine is going to become, fortunately it hasn't gotten any worse in the last couple of years. I think the point at which I have a streak, I'll give up my vanity and just wear it Cruella style. ;)

[matildawong]

I love it, chia. We can find each other at Coachella with our streaks. Easy to spot. (mine seems to be in a holding pattern, too.) <she says, gritting her teeth and hoping>

[hawkingvsreeve]

I have a few gray hairs on my chin. Or maybe not gray but white. I dont know, it's odd.

[BROKENDOLL]

Your hair doesnt seem too difficult to color if you are just doing one color without highlights or anything like that. Dont use the box stuff though, get some developer and use a professional permanent dye. It's cheaper in the long run as well.
Besides the fact that I usually end up doing stuff the hard way anyway, you can toss in the shot or two I do to get in the mood to begin with. And I agree on the professional colors VS store bought. Problem with that is, you need to know the measurements necessary for mixing VS the pre-measured cut the top open setup


do NOT. use exactly what developer the specific dye requires. use a protein pack when youre done.

i just dyed my hair with permanent dye for the first time ever. it smells and burns. gross shit. my pretty colored dyes smell like candy sometimes...mm. being a bright red head is FUN. i also just started cutting my own hair, risky considering my hair, but free.
I bet the red won't be good enough once you start discovering how permanent colors can go both darker and lighter. Can't do that with the temp stuff....Only darker. Hint to avoid excess burning from chems:try not to brush or stimulate the scalp before a coloring. Any tiny little scratch will burn like crazy!


Seriously, girls, don't dye your hair. Most of the time we think it's prettier the way it is.
Randy, sorry, but if I didn't color my hair, I'd have almost as much gray as you do! :laughyou And seriously...Your gray hair doesn't look bad. No men seem to have bad looking gray hair and personally, I've always wondered why. I mean, come on, it's grows evenly in the temples, mustaches, and beards. We, on the other hand gets this shit comparable to bionic steel wool! Anyone just starting to get afew here and there will tell you...the damn things stick out beyond the rest as if they have to announce you're getting old! %$##@!!! And we all know, I need no assistance in that department! LOL


Yea, bright white. It's weird because I have brown hair. They're actually a pretty color that I'd be happy to have if I were like 60. :/
My mom's was a little of both silver and white. I rmember her and my dad watching TV andhe commented about one of the stars and how pretty her hair was. So, my mom, who had just started getting gray went and had hers done. It looked great, but when my dad walked in and said something to the effect that only cheap women do that to their hair, she never did it again. (That's also the first time I thik I ever heard my mom use the "F" word, come to think of it! LOL

[rskapcat]

I need to learn how to cut my own bangs, badly. How big are your chunks that you separate?

I usually separate into 4 chunks, if that helps. The results are NOT even straight across...so if that's the look you're going for, I wouldn't twist. I look really weird with perfectly even bangs because of the curl, so I have to have a lot of texture so I don't have one weird block of hair on my forehead.

[Pixiessp]

I cut my bangs between salon visits. I tend to forget that when my hair is longer it gets somewhat curly. Not all over my head but only in certain spots.
Right now I'm sporting a lovely but ridiculous looking spiral curl over my right eye. I think it's time to get out the barber shears.

[chairmenmeow47]

i am eternally grateful for my rail straight brown hair. if my hair required colouring or styling every month, there's no way in hell i'd spend the kinda money y'all are talking about and i'd just look like shit every day, lol. supercuts4life :p

i did get to do some shopping at my mom's store last night!!!! i was in dire need of jeans for my trip to NJ at the end of this month. i'm in love with this chelsea & violet brand; it's new to me. reminded me of anthropologie. they had so many adorable tops & dresses. my mom kept trying to get me to get a pair of those missme jeans with all the bling on the pockets, but generally pants with the packet covers make my butt look even more enormous than it already does and these had TONS of bling on the pockets, so i passed and got some MKEs instead.

here's the new shirt, i just woke up so i apologize for the deer in headlights look:

http://ivy.aholic.us/gallery/d/806771-1/1011091119.jpg

looks great with jeans :)

oh and matilda, your avatar reminds me of how much i want to be malificent for halloween someday. i want to style my hair like her horns... someday...

[rskapcat]

*LOVE* that shirt, Ivy! That neckline works fabulously for girls with chests.

[chairmenmeow47]

*LOVE* that shirt, Ivy! That neckline works fabulously for girls with chests.

indeed it does! i'm always grateful though when shirts that have that neckline have a sort of empire waist and then get flowy though so it's not TOO tight.

and i love love LOVE your avatar! fight the ocean!

[rskapcat]

Tight in the bust and flowy from the ribcage down is flattering. (And forgiving if you're rocking a gut that day!) I can't wear shirts that don't go in under my boobs...they make me look pregnant. That is never a good look, unless you are about to give birth.

[rskapcat]

I wish I hadn't clicked on the modcloth.com link.

This dress screams "baby prostitute", but I don't care. My bewbs would look fantastic.

http://modcloth.com/store/ModCloth/Womens/Dresses/Solid/Milk+and+Honey+Dress

I might use my work's Christmas party as an excuse to buy this.

http://modcloth.com/store/ModCloth/Womens/Dresses/Printed/Tulle+Hot+To+Handle+Dress

Love this from the front...but the racerback style would make me look like a linebacker.

http://modcloth.com/store/ModCloth/Womens/Dresses/Printed/Einsteins+Attic+Dress

[BROKENDOLL]

That's one of the plusses of rail thin straight hair...you wake up and it's still rail thin straight hair. I wake up and have to deal with looking like Rod Stewart or, one of the muppets! And, if I can't wet my hair after I wake up then it's all about being hat day.

[BROKENDOLL]

Can you ladies please stop posting cute clothes pictures and cool clothing sites until I'm employed again? :rolleyes

[chiapet]

Tight in the bust and flowy from the ribcage down is flattering. (And forgiving if you're rocking a gut that day!) I can't wear shirts that don't go in under my boobs...they make me look pregnant. That is never a good look, unless you are about to give birth.

Yea that's a hard look for me too. I like stuff that is fitted under the bust and then just slightly flared -- not billowy.


pixies - When my hair is on the dry side (meaning when I wash it every day), it's partially straight with waves in a couple of places and a few curls up front. Wavy hair usually gets dry very easy. I've changed conditioners, stopped washing every day, and now only use leave in conditioner, no other products. That results in my hair being curly all over. Not fussy curly but loose ringlets.

[chiapet]

Becca and Joann, this book was recommended to me when I was struggling with part wavy part straight hair:

http://www.amazon.com/Curly-Girl-Lorraine-Massey/dp/0761123008

Unless you are trying for straight hair, it's a good read (and is probably at your library). If I can find my copy I'd be glad to pass it along to one of you.

I did not think my hair was really "that curly" since I had sections that were really straight, but by only even loosely following the author's rules, my hair is pretty much curly all over. Not crazy unmanageable curly, but the sort that doesn't have to be fussed with at all.

[matildawong]

Ivy, you could totally do a Maleficent (I mean that in a totally complimentary way!)... with your hair done into horns! Your costumes (as seen here) are always wicked good.

[Astrid]

curly girl is such a great book! thats the book that made me realize its OK my hair loathes and detests shampoo. :cool:

ok so i spent a very long time on modcloth, or perhaps it was another almost identical website, regardless, i was just really mind boggled by the names they pick for all the dresses. but then again, stoned online shopping is always a mind fuck.

http://www.modcloth.com/store/ModCloth/Womens/Dresses/Printed/Wouldn+t+You+Like+to+Bow+Dress

http://www.modcloth.com/store/ModCloth/Womens/Dresses/Printed/Damsel+in+This+Dress

http://www.modcloth.com/store/ModCloth%2FWomens%2FDresses%2FPrinted/The+Rose+Mc+Gown+Maxi
case and point.

shit man...

[Pixiessp]

Becca and Joann, this book was recommended to me when I was struggling with part wavy part straight hair:

http://www.amazon.com/Curly-Girl-Lorraine-Massey/dp/0761123008

Unless you are trying for straight hair, it's a good read (and is probably at your library). If I can find my copy I'd be glad to pass it along to one of you.

I did not think my hair was really "that curly" since I had sections that were really straight, but by only even loosely following the author's rules, my hair is pretty much curly all over. Not crazy unmanageable curly, but the sort that doesn't have to be fussed with at all.

Thanks!!! I will give it a looksie.

[locachica73]

Last time I got my hair cut, colored and eyebrows waxed I walked out of the salon with $250 less. I can't afford that even with a job so my girlfriend did my hair for me the last time and it doesnt look too bad. I wanted a two tone look but I am not very good at dying my own hair even one color much less two. Although it does dry out alot more from the store bought dye I think. And my hair is already extremely dry.

I have super thin hair though and have tried to go with the not washing daily advice and it just doesn't seem to work for me. For one, I apparently move alot during sleep so without at least conditioning it I would not get a brush through it. I tried just conditioning and ended up with greasy hair by the end of the day. Some days I wish I could just shave it off and say fuck it.

I have gray hair so I have to dye, and all my gray is right in my part so it is very noticable. On men its "distinguished" on women, its old looking. Double standards suck ass.

[chiapet]

curly girl is such a great book! thats the book that made me realize its OK my hair loathes and detests shampoo. :cool:

Mine too. I haven't done away with shampooing altogether yet, but I used to wash my hair every day or two and am down to about once a week now. For anyone whose hair looks better a day washing than right after washing, this book is for you.

[chiapet]

I do not brush or even comb my hair, loca. :) I use fingers and conditioner to work the tangles out.

[locachica73]

Mine is pretty straight though, a bit of a wave on the end, one side going out and the other side going in. When I go to work I usually just wash it and then let it dry on the way to work, but then if I go out that night I will go home and take another shower and wash it again. There are some days I wash my hair twice. Sometimes I don't even intend to wash it the second time, I plan on just wetting it to put product in it and style, but it is such a habit when under the shower to wash that it just happens without me even knowing it. :)

[amyzzz]

I have to shampoo every day. I experimented with less washing this summer, and it just did not work. Also, I haven't dyed my hair in over 2 years -- I don't "have" to do it yet because I have no grey, and it's so damn expensive.

[TheWatcher]

My hair is turning white, it's probably 50% now.

I stopped dying it though because I can't tolerate the poison in the dyes.

I got some Henna with the idea of trying that but it sounds like a LOT of work! Maybe someday I will go to one of the "green" salons and pay them to do my hair with Henna.

It's funny, the dyes they sell at Hot Topic (blue, green, purple, etc!) are pretty much non-toxic, but they can't come up with something non-toxic that results in a "natural" color?

[chairmenmeow47]

my former rooomate used henna for her red hair, she really liked it. it's just extremely gross to handle & she would stain my towels with it. other than that, she loved it & generally had a gilfriend do it for her.

and i want to see chris rock's "why don't i have good hair" movie.

[locachica73]

I did Henna once several years ago. All I remember about it is that it just didn't last that long.

[obzen]

gilfriend

:cool:

[amyzzz]

Does henna gradually wash out (hence the stained towels)?

[BROKENDOLL]

Be careful with the Hennas though. They generally have metals in them, (Won't get all science on you trying to explain it.) and if you have Henna on your hair and then decide to apply a regular tint/color, there's a chance for a chemical reaction to occur that could totally discolor your hair. Same goes for getting perms on top of Henna. Keeping that in mind, if you don't plan on any permanent coloring or perms, the Henna can make thin, limp hair seem thicker and fuller due to coating it.

[chairmenmeow47]

Does henna gradually wash out (hence the stained towels)?

yes, it gradually washes out. i think she does hers every month or so. not the best picture, but i'm busy and this was easy to find. she's in the back by the tv with the blue tanktop:

http://www.abstractlogik.com/albums/randomness/ahm.sized.jpg

[TheWatcher]

Yeah, I had heard that about the metals. The pure 100% Henna (organic) is not supposed to have metals.

[TheWatcher]

Every month would be fine for me, my hair grows so fast (about 1" per month) that I'd need to touch it up every couple weeks at least to avoid white roots.

[amyzzz]

I'll have to think about that when I start going grey. Thanks.

[BROKENDOLL]

Does henna gradually wash out (hence the stained towels)?
Yes, they are a temporary color. Semi-permanent colors will do the same, especially at first. I'm talking about those that supposedly wash out over a period of weeks. (Or, shampoos.) There was one temp color I tried just before Coachella this last year. I thought afew streaks of vibrant red would be fun, and I figured it would be gone within a short time since I wash my hair daily. WRONG! That shit wasn't washing out, no matter how often I washed my hair! It faded somewhat, but I wasn't into a strange shade of red/orange.

[BROKENDOLL]

yes, it gradually washes out. i think she does hers every month or so. not the best picture, but i'm busy and this was easy to find. she's in the back by the tv with the blue tanktop:

http://www.abstractlogik.com/albums/randomness/ahm.sized.jpg
Oooo,while I like her Henna shade, the girl next to her with the purplish shade (?) and pink bangs really caught my eye. It is purple/pink, isn't it? (God, I hate having bad eyesight!!!

[chiapet]

I've tried Henna but it didn't take well on my hair and bleeds too much for me to bother with -- I could not really wear light colors because it would stain the collar and back of my tops, as well as my pillow cases, sheets, towels...

There are fairly non-toxic options though. I have a semi-hippie-ish hairdresser who is always on me to use them (at the salon of course), and while I really loved the results, it did not last long and I can't justify spending so much money to dye my hair. Like TheWatcher, my hair grows really quickly so I'd be in for a dye job every 4 weeks.

[locachica73]

I wish my hair grew quickly, I haven't had a hair cut since coachella and my hair is barely shoulder length now. I can't even put it in a good pony tail.

[Courtney]

I have gray hair so I have to dye, and all my gray is right in my part so it is very noticable. On men its "distinguished" on women, its old looking. Double standards suck ass.

I love women with healthy, thick, straight, 100% silver hair all over. Especially when they do a blunt angular cut. But yeah, unfortunately my hair has a slight wave to it and also if my mother and grandmother are any guide then my hair is just going to be brown with gray streaks for a very long time.


Yes, they are a temporary color. Semi-permanent colors will do the same, especially at first. I'm talking about those that supposedly wash out over a period of weeks. (Or, shampoos.) There was one temp color I tried just before Coachella this last year. I thought afew streaks of vibrant red would be fun, and I figured it would be gone within a short time since I wash my hair daily. WRONG! That shit wasn't washing out, no matter how often I washed my hair! It faded somewhat, but I wasn't into a strange shade of red/orange.

I find that the state of my hair is a fairly major indicator to how long semi-permanents stay put. If it's in good shape and healthy and glossy then semi-permanent dyes will wash out in a matter of weeks, but if it's dry or damaged from chemical processing, those same dyes might stick around for a lot longer.

This is why I need to give it a rest from color for a while, which is harder than in sounds. I'm starting to get antsy.

[amyzzz]

I want the genes of the old women who have thick hair. How often do you see that?

[locachica73]

My mother was pretty much fully gray by the time she was my age. She has that silver straight hair, not thick though. Hers looks horrible though because she doesn't do anything with it, plus with all the perm and dye jobs she did in younger years her hair is now very thin and stringy. Luckily my fathers hair was a little thicker and not as gray so I at least am not 100% gray. But I have a feeling by 50 I will be.

[Courtney]

For one, I apparently move alot during sleep so without at least conditioning it I would not get a brush through it.

Have you tried putting it up/back when you sleep? I find that putting it in two low braids helps a lot when I'm having this problem. I know your hair is shorter than mine, but maybe you could try holding it back with a scarf?

[chairmenmeow47]

braids help with tangling? weird, not for me, but i have thick hair. nothing prevents tangling, lol.

[TheWatcher]

I keep mine in a braid all the time, otherwise it will get in tangles VERY quickly!

[Astrid]

i used to put my hair in a big bun on top of my head. my roommates loved it. :D but ive given up on trying anything now.

[chiapet]

I don't think my mom or dad had very much gray at my age. I always wonder how that can be, surely my life is not more stressful than theirs was with 3 kids, their own business, and money problems? (My life is pretty stressful.....).

[Courtney]

braids help with tangling? weird, not for me, but i have thick hair. nothing prevents tangling, lol.

Haha. Yes, for me. I find that when I'm moving around a lot, I guess my hair rubs up against the pillows and can sometimes get slightly matted in the back over a few hours. But with braids, it all stays put and I can just brush the braids out in the morning without many tangles. Although the braids worked better before I had layers.

[locachica73]

I have gone to bed with a ponytail in and woke up in them morning with a giant rats nest and missing my ponytail holder. I have not tried a scarf though. I may have to give that a shot.

[chairmenmeow47]

i have no idea when my mom went grey as she's always dyed her hair. my dad on the other hand has just slowly gotten some pepper sprinkled in there and has kept a pretty thick head of brown hair. i hope that passes onto me. of course, if randy and i ever have kids, they're straight fucked, lol.

[amyzzz]

A ponytail before bed works for me. I pretty much do that every night.

[miscorrections]

I can't sleep with a ponytail because the hair tie always comes out and gets lost somewhere in my bed. Although I don't have a problem with tangling because my hair is short.

I think I am actually going to commit to growing it out, though. I really want it to be long enough for a loose side braid.

[Courtney]

I can't do a ponytail because it's too bumpy to put my head down flat on the pillow. You must do a super low ponytail or something, Amy.

[TheWatcher]

My grandfather on my mother's side didn't even start going gray till his late 70s, but my grandmother started when she was 19. I guess I got something of both of them, because I didn't start going gray till after I hit 40, but it's going FAST!

[amyzzz]

I only ever put my hair in low ponytails. Too much work to do anything else (bumps).

[locachica73]

Supposedly the bumps are "in" because they actually sell a product on infomercials to create the bump. I don't get it.

[BROKENDOLL]

I want the genes of the old women who have thick hair. How often do you see that?
Every fucking morning, Amyzzz...every fucking morning...:rolleyes

[amyzzz]

I'm not talking about stylish bumps, loca. Just the bumps my hair gets if I try to pull it into a high ponytail. meh. And my head/face is not the right shape for the trendy alien hair bump thing anyway.

[amyzzz]

Just be glad your hair isn't falling out, BD.

[locachica73]

http://www.perfumezilla.com/images_product/tigi-hair-care-57ml-2oz-bed-head-mastermind-hair-candy-for-separation-texture-women.jpg

This use to be my favorite texturing product but they stopped selling it. I have tried several others but they make my hair appear greasy. Does anyone have any advice on a good product for texturing and adding volume?

[chiapet]

My great-grandmother still had dark hair when she died (99), only a few strands of gray. I guess that did not pass on to me. :P

I have so much trouble sleeping with a ponytail and end up ripping hair out somehow. The only time I wear it that way is if there is fresh bright dyes and I'm trying to contain how much it transfers on to my bedding.

[chiapet]

loca, if you were nearby, I'd have you come over and raid my boxes of products. I'm getting rid of most of them since I never really use it now that I am not shampooing much.

[amyzzz]

My mom's hair is a really pretty blue grey now, but I'm not sure if it is natural or dyed that grey (because it really is pretty).

[HowToDisappear]

When my mother died at 84, she still only had salt-and-pepper gray. She didn't get any gray at all until her late 60's. I'm 47 and have a smattering of gray hairs all over my head, but you can only see them if you look very closely. People are convinced I dye my hair, which I do not. I get asked all the time "who's your colorist? Your color is fabulous...so natural!" When I say Mother Nature, they always look stunned and surprised. I don't know if that's bad or good.

[Pixiessp]

People don't believe I don't color my hair either. My mom is 69 (next month) and her hair is still a very pretty medium brown. My dad is 73 and only started getting gray in his late 60's. I stand a good chance of not getting gray for a while yet. *fingers crossed*

[obzen]

http://www.perfumezilla.com/images_product/tigi-hair-care-57ml-2oz-bed-head-mastermind-hair-candy-for-separation-texture-women.jpg
I use Murray's pomade.

[miscorrections]

My dad went gray really early, started showing in his early twenties. My mom didn't start getting any gray till 40 or so, and I don't think she's got that much now. I hope I take after her, it looks promising.

[miscorrections]

Why is no one making cute affordable wedge ankle boots? I can't find them ANYWHERE. Like these (http://www.zappos.com/giuseppe-zanotti-i98128-nero), but affordable.

[obzen]

Those would make almost any broad look hawt.

[chairmenmeow47]

i have trouble finding affordable boots in general, which is probably why i don't own any boots except costume boots. i mean, you can generally find a shitty pair for cheap, but they'll kill your feet & won't last but a wear or two. i don't know if it's the leather or the shape or what, but i have yet to find a decent price on a boot.

also i can honestly say i have zero interest in anything with a wedge. i don't know what it is, but i hate the wedge look. my mom is always trying to get me to get them, but they bug me for some reason and i can't explain it logically at all, lol. for that style of boot though, a wedge looks good.

[obzen]

Fuck I'm bored.

[gaypalmsprings]

This is hawt.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/17/article-1193384-055E4FE3000005DC-456_306x481.jpg

[amyzzz]

Wedge heels are gross.

[chiapet]

I hate wedges too. I not only feel like they're ugly looking, I can't seem to walk properly in them. It's like you have to shuffle along.

[amyzzz]

Good luck in your search though, Corinna.

[Courtney]

Wow, let the record show that this is the first time that I differ with Corinna's impeccable sense of style. I also do not love those boots. Although I think it has to do more with the silver buckle than the wedge.

I have these ankle boots which I am wearing a lot recently. Note, no buckle, no wedge:

http://www.zappos.com/product/7594637/color/7122

[miscorrections]

I usually only like wedges on oxfords and normally I HATE them on boots but the wedges on those are so high and I'm so into extra hardware on shoes/boots right now that I love them.

Courtney, those are cute but I think I like more aggressive heels.

[Courtney]

There's some sort of strange poetry to comparing shoe styles to personality types. Hmm. Maybe I don't even want to know what that says about me.

[TheWatcher]

I can't find any boots that suit me.

I need something with NO heel. Seems that all boots have some heel, even boots for men.

[chairmenmeow47]

There's some sort of strange poetry to comparing shoe styles to personality types.

ha ha ha, agreed.

i'd be more likely to sport a knee length mod type boot or even something victorian. i'm also not much of a suede or leather n' metal girl. i'm more into classic looking styles with a cute modern twist when it comes to shoes. i also adore anything that has fabric on it like tweed or something like that. you both definitely can pull off those looks though much better than i could :)

i have another pair of heels that need new plastic doo-dads on the heel. i also think it's about time i broke down and find a pair of work flats i can tolerate. i hate the way my feet look in flats; i'm a size 9 & feel like they look like clown shoes on me. plus, my pants are always a bit too long for flats as i buy them with heels in mind. but now that i'm on the second floor and doing a lot more walking around, i need something comfy.

and i'm typing all of this as though i'll have money for shoe shopping anytime soon, lol. as it is, i need another rack to accommodate the ones i have!

[miscorrections]

Ivy, getting new heel taps is cheap and fast if you just take them to a shoe repair place.

[chiapet]

I adore buckles. Normally New Rock type stuff, but I'm trying to be more demure (which really just comes off like I'm some trying to look like a dominatrix).

[chairmenmeow47]

Ivy, getting new heel taps is cheap and fast if you just take them to a shoe repair place.

thanks! i remember from the last time you told me, i'm just that broke :x

[BROKENDOLL]

Why is no one making cute affordable wedge ankle boots? I can't find them ANYWHERE. Like these (http://www.zappos.com/giuseppe-zanotti-i98128-nero), but affordable.
I was looking at boots last night on a site that I can't recall the name of. I'm gonna hafta look back because I thjought of Corinna when I saw them They weren't wedges but that were nasty. (Good nasty, mind you.) Anyway, with prices like that Corinna, they shpould come with someone to rub your feet at the end of the day. Now these right here...If I could make it from the front door to the bedroom, I'd have gotten my money's worth! LOL
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w18/1BROKENDOLL/1033508-p-DETAILED.jpg


Those would make almost any broad look hawt. And if a guy ever said this to me while wearing those boots, I bet it would take little effort to kick him in the ass regardless of how much they hurt my feet. LOL


i have trouble finding affordable boots in general, which is probably why i don't own any boots except costume boots. i mean, you can generally find a shitty pair for cheap, but they'll kill your feet & won't last but a wear or two. i don't know if it's the leather or the shape or what, but i have yet to find a decent price on a boot.

also i can honestly say i have zero interest in anything with a wedge. i don't know what it is, but i hate the wedge look. my mom is always trying to get me to get them, but they bug me for some reason and i can't explain it logically at all, lol. for that style of boot though, a wedge looks good.
I have about 7 pairs of various style boots and the only really comfortable ones are those designed with a cowgirl in mind. (Or horsey person in general.) Anything cute usually hurts after a short time. Actually, the wedge boot would work because the part of your foot that hurts first is being supported by the wedge. I'll keep an eye out since the only shopping I can afford is pretend online ordering. (Put in basket, get total, then turn off PC before completing transaction.) :(

[chiapet]

I have lots of comfortable boots, but they are generally slightly chunkier heels and/or flats. Spike heeled boots are not comfortable for long at all.

[Courtney]

Oh hey, Kim Gordon just had a cameo on Gossip Girl.

Oh hey, I'm watching Gossip Girl.

[Astrid]

courtney i can only imagine you as a cracked out little squirrel in fancy boots. i dont mean this is an offensive way, only in the way that i dont know what you look like and squirrels in boots are hilarious.

[Courtney]

Haha. I almost wish that I was actually a squirrel in boots for you, Astrid.

And to cap off the Kim Gordon cameo, all of Sonic Youth just did a stripped-down version of "Star Power" at the end of the Gossip Girl episode. I'm so confused right now. They must have teenage offspring that talked them into it.

[chairmenmeow47]

my mom just texted me asking if i had any plans saturday. i said not really and asked if she had something in mind. her reply, "boots & dinner". hopefully that means new boots!!! i thought of this thread, lol.

oh, and randy & i have decided to do fight club instead of heathers for halloween. i'm not much of a marla, but thankfully i have a lot of black stuff (including a short, shitty wig) so it'll be fairly cheap & easy, which is perfect for travelling :thu

[chiapet]

I need a new boots sponsor. :)

I tried to pick glasses tonight. I narrowed it down to two pairs, one that probably look better on me, and one that I like a lot more but don't look as good.

The ones I like but don't look that wonderful are like this:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/eyeglasses_2074_350618755.png

I'm not sure that's actually them but they're similar.

[chiapet]

This is marginally a girls thread topic but what the fuck is wrong with people under 25? I understand all about being kind of a slut when you're young and single but some of my relatives are appalling. Latest is: pictures in underwear only in a photo album highlighting the fact that she, apparently, is the proud new owner of a house arrest bracelet.

And I thought I was a bad kid :nono :nono :nono

[locachica73]

My daughter use to like to go to the pool with her house arrest anklet and tell people it was a bomb. Such a proud mamma. Ugh

[BROKENDOLL]

Christ, if I had a bracelet for everytime I was put on restriction when I was younger, I'd have been a raver before raving was cool!

[chiapet]

I decided not to get those glasses. I'm getting bronze metal ones. I love/hate glasses shopping.

I'm wanting to my eyebrow pierced. It's something I've wanted to do since I was in college, but I always had problems with even just ear piercings, so I thought it wasn't possible. I've been having good luck now with steel so I was thinking about going for it in a few weeks.

Here is my question: I know the stuff about piercings on a particular side meaning you are gay or straight is bogus, BUT do so many people still believe that, that piercing one side is going to make me get more assumptions than I already do?

I think the right would look better on me. I like the right side of my face better :P

[algunz]

The side doesn't matter anymore at all.

[chiapet]

*I* know that, that's not what I was asking :)

[matildawong]

Chia, I think if you like the placing better on your right side, go with it. I was just recently (trying to reclaim my youthful cuh-razy-ness) re-piercing my (several) earholes with earrings and I was thinking about that "left is right, right is wrong' thing (or whatev) .. I just went with aesthetics.

[gaypalmsprings]

Interracial couple in Louisiana denied marriage license

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Civil rights advocates in eastern Louisiana are calling for a justice of the peace of Tangipahoa Parish to resign after he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple.

"He's an elected public official and one of his duties is to marry people. He doesn't have the right to say he doesn't believe in it," Patricia Morris, president of the NAACP branch of Tangipahoa Parish, located near the Mississippi line, said Thursday. "If he doesn't do what his position calls for him to do, he should resign from that position."

The demands for Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace for Tangipahoa Parish's 8th Ward, to step down came after he wouldn't issue a marriage license to Beth Humphrey, 30, and her boyfriend, Terence McKay, 32, both of Hammond.

"I was just really shocked, because he's an elected official," Humphrey said.

Bardwell didn't immediately return calls from CNN on Thursday.

However, Bardwell told Hammond's Daily Star newspaper that he was concerned for the children who might be born of the relationship and that, in his experience, most interracial marriages don't last.

"I'm not a racist," Bardwell told the newspaper. "I do ceremonies for black couples right here in my house. My main concern is for the children."

Bardwell, stressing that he couldn't personally endorse the marriage, said his wife referred the couple to another justice of the peace.

The bride says the case boils down to discrimination.

Humphrey told CNN that she called Bardwell on October 6 to ask about getting a marriage license, and was asked by his wife whether it would be an interracial marriage. Humphrey said she was told that Bardwell does not sign off on interracial marriages.

She said the couple -- who received their marriage license October 9 from another justice of the peace in the same parish -- have reached out to an attorney to determine their next step.

"We would like him to resign," she said. "He doesn't believe he's being racist, but it is racist."

Morris told CNN that her NAACP chapter has forwarded the case to the state and national levels of the civil rights group.

According to the Census Bureau, Tangipahoa Parish is about 70 percent white and 30 percent black.

[locachica73]

Wow, it amazes me that there are still people in this world with such narrow minds. And in New Orleans... Home of Mardi Gras, where you show breasts for beads. I can see this in some backwoods town somewhere but that just shocks me.

[miscorrections]

I'm not sure what that story has to do with this thread. This is a girl thread, not an interracial couple thread.

[matildawong]

Just to clarify, I was thinking about that stupid phrase when I was re-piercing my hole. I wasn't worrying about it. :>

[chiapet]

Oh, I don't think anyone notices ear piercings (in terms of side). I was also recently considering re-living my youth and getting piercings redone ;) I hadn't even worn ("normal") earrings in years so I just had a few holes re-done and am going back in a couple of weeks to get a few more lobe and my cartilage piercings re-done, and possibly to start a scaffold. (Most of the ones I've had were self-inflicted or done by friends and never took well).

On the brow + side of face thing, yea, I'll probably get it on my right. I was just curious whether that will cause people to make more of an uninformed judgment about me than they already do. (I wasn't saying that it would stop me from doing it anyway). I'm apparently already taken to be gay initially by lots of people. I really must stop staring at girls' asses in public.

[Pixiessp]

I'm apparently already taken to be gay initially by lots of people. I really must stop staring at girls' asses in public.

Don't worry, Chia. I stare at girl's asses all the time and no one thinks I'm gay.

[chiapet]

I am sitting here trying to find wellies that I like, and since I couldn't decide, I spent $100 in knee socks to wear under the wellies I didn't buy.

What do you gals think?

http://www.shoes.com/ProductImages/shoes_iaec1132668.jpg

http://www.shoes.com/ProductImages/shoes_iaec1160090.jpg

http://www.shoemall.com/assets/product_images/styles/large/153136PNK1Z.jpg

[rskapcat]

Middle pair.

[TheWatcher]

Those are all kinds of awesome. They remind me of the painted trashcans at Coachella.

[chiapet]

I like the print on the middle one the best, but the style of the 3rd pair the most.

[miscorrections]

Second pair. I want these rain boots:

http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/Shopbop/pcs/media/images/products/korss/korss2015512867/korss2015512867_p1_v1_m56577569831786087_254x500.j pg

[TheWatcher]

My marathoner friend swears by this one and she is a G cup. heh.

http://www.barenecessities.com/Shock-Absorber-Level-4-Max-No-Wire-Sports-Bra_product_ShockAbsorberB109_,search,36DDD.htm



So, I went and ordered one of the Shock Absorber bras in the DDD/F size... Turns out I might need the G cup. But, I don't think I am that big... I will see if it fits after I lose another 5-10 pounds.

[chiapet]

Those are cute. These would be for glastonbury (and bonnaroo if I ever go again), so I was looking for something not plain.

[chiapet]

Yea they say if you lose 10 lbs your bra size probably changes. I have to lose more than that for anything to fit differently heh.

[matildawong]

God, me too. I've gained a lot over the last year. Starting drinking again has not helped. But I'm back at the gym and that shock absorber bra looks like a good investment. Thanks for posting that.

You know that thing (well, you only know this if you've gone through a weight gain period) where nothing fits you anymore, but you don't want to go buy the next sizes up in clothes because you don't want to STAY at that size? But in the meantime, everything is uncomfortable as hell....

[chiapet]

Yup. That's when I buy a lot of shoes. :)

[TheWatcher]

Yeah, right now I am halfway between the larger size I was at, when I gave up and bought clothes that fit, and my goal weight. So, most of my clothes are really baggy or really tight. :(

Another 15 lbs and my old clothes will fit! Something to look forward to.

[matildawong]

Go Watcher! I'm at the zenith of the weight gain where you are at gym religiously but no results (yet).

Chia -- shoes sound good right now.

[BROKENDOLL]

I am sitting here trying to find wellies that I like, and since I couldn't decide, I spent $100 in knee socks to wear under the wellies I didn't buy.

What do you gals think?

http://www.shoes.com/ProductImages/shoes_iaec1132668.jpg

http://www.shoes.com/ProductImages/shoes_iaec1160090.jpg

http://www.shoemall.com/assets/product_images/styles/large/153136PNK1Z.jpg
I know what my first thought was...we're related! LOL My 2nd thought was you'll pack all those socks and the wellies, (I have faith in you getting them eventually.) and when you get to the festival and toss you inhibitions aside, you'll be running barefoot through the mud! LOL:thu Actually, although all 3 pair are cute in their own way, but why don't you make the shopping part easier and just get a plain pair and dress them up yourself? I remember your yellow sub masterpiece, and we've seen pics of your makeup abilities...I bet you'd end up being a hit with your wellies if you did them yourself. I vote to release your creative animal!

[chiapet]

That is a great idea (and thanks btw!) but I ordered the 2nd pair... we'll see how they fit, they might end up going back and then I'll see if I can't conjure something myself. :)

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

those boots are AWESOME but they are visually some of the loudest things I have ever seen. If you can pull them off with whatever you're wearing they'll look amazing

[chiapet]

I can pull off anything.

If I could wear psychedelic disco hot pants to high school without being made fun of, I can certainly wear psychedelic rain boots in rainy season in a city full of hippies. :)

[chiapet]

Btw, I'm not sure if I've shared this before, but the most incredible footwear accessories site imaginable:

http://www.sockdreams.com

Every time I go there I end up spending hundreds of dollars. Because I desperately need lime green and purple striped knee socks and the like.

[amyzzz]

oh shit, chia. Thanks a lot. Because I really need more stripey socks! Love those boots too btw.

[chairmenmeow47]

hard to see, but here are the boots. the best part of all is they are that "soft" brand with tons of comfy padding:

http://ivy.aholic.us/gallery/d/807025-1/447153468_1557389610_0.jpeg

and randy & i decided to go with fight club for halloween. i got a different wig, but here's my rendition:

http://ivy.aholic.us/gallery/d/807027-2/slide.jpeg

jacket was a bit of a splurge since i couldn't find the one i wanted to use (and had since high school, sad times). the hat was clearance at dillards & i've run wire through it to make it bendy. the wig i'm wearing here is one i had, but i found a better one today for like 5 bucks. the glasses are lightly tinted so they won't be as annoying at night.

[locachica73]

Yea they say if you lose 10 lbs your bra size probably changes. I have to lose more than that for anything to fit differently heh.

Luckily that hasn't been the case for me. At one point I was about 60lbs heavier than I am now, towards the end of my marriage. My boobs were barely a B then and I have lost and gained weight over the last 5 years and they have never changed thank goodness. If I lost a cup size for every 10lbs I would have inverted breasts. :)


Yeah, right now I am halfway between the larger size I was at, when I gave up and bought clothes that fit, and my goal weight. So, most of my clothes are really baggy or really tight. :(

Another 15 lbs and my old clothes will fit! Something to look forward to.

I have lost about 2 pant sizes recently and have the same problem. Unfortunately I am too broke to go out and shop for any clothes though so I am stuck in my baggy clothes for awhile. It feels kind of good to have pants hanging off, but on the other hand it would be really nice to have more then 1 pair that fit. I am wearing out the one pair of jeans that I saved from long ago that I hadn't fit in for awhile.

[chiapet]

Oh I didn't say one lost a cup size for every 10 lbs. The band size usually changes.

[chiapet]

Ivy, Sofft or something like that? Love that brand. They're so comfortable.

[locachica73]

ahhh, thank goodness. My bras are pretty old, I just figured they were worn out but they might actually be looser around. I own 2 bras, a black and a white one. One of them is missing one underwire. I really need to win the lotto or something.

[amyzzz]

I gained a cup size when I gained 50 lbs...when I was pregnant. :thu

[locachica73]

The only time I remember actually having breasts was after I had the kids and they ummm filled. And then they hurt too much to truly enjoy them. :(

[amyzzz]

I remember going out dancing a few times when I was lactating, to show off my cleavage. Meh.

[locachica73]

lol i was scared to leave the damn house. the slightest loud noise and i was having my own wet t-shirt contest.

[amyzzz]

lolz

[Astrid]

ahhh, thank goodness. My bras are pretty old, I just figured they were worn out but they might actually be looser around. I own 2 bras, a black and a white one. One of them is missing one underwire. I really need to win the lotto or something.

dude, go to ross. they have a rather large selection of bras for $4-6. Just try and look for the ones that are actual recognizable brands such as vanity fair or maidenform and your golden.

bras are such a fickle mistress. from selling lingerie for a couple years ive learned that not only pretty much no one know their accurate bra size but none of the sizes are actually standardized anyways. shenanigans. try that shit on ladies.

[locachica73]

Shopping is one of the first things on my list to do once I get moved and caught up on bills again. I do like Ross for shirts but have never found any pants there that fit. I did try going through the bra section once though and could not find any 38B's which was my size before, but I may have to give it another shot now and see if I can find anything in a 36B. I do need to get myself sized though. I don't even think I am an actual B but can't find an A that fits around.

[chiapet]

There is no way you're an A. You are not as flat chested as you seem to think you are.

[Astrid]

you could just size yourself, its very easy. the people at victorias secret always tell me different bullshit every time, they dont know whats up.

this chart simplifies it pretty well
http://www.padless.com/bra-sizes.htm

this site is really good, especially the explanation in the first paragraph
http://www.wikihow.com/Measure-Your-Bra-Size
but apparently it is for uk standards, and i have no idea wtf the differences are.